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A brief comparison between Belay Specs and CU Belay Glasses
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By Mark E Dixon
From Sprezzatura, Someday
Oct 14, 2012
At the BRC
My wife has had a pair of the CU glasses for about three years. She has neck issues and swears they have extended her climbing career by relieving her chronic belayer's neck pain. My neck is fine, but I recently decided to buy a pair of glasses when I found that partners who used them just gave better belays while working projects. Figured I should reciprocate. What follows is my personal experience.

The CU belays were reviewed very well here-
mountainproject.com/v/gear-rev...

Belay Specs share the same basic characteristics. They are produced in Utah rathher than Germany and cost substantially less ($80 vs $150.)

Both share the same basic design, a shaped metal frame supporting two prisms. The prisms on the Bely Specs are a little bigger, and the metal tray holding the prisms is correspondingly bigger and heavier. This gives a slightly bigger field of view while looking through the prisms, but also less peripheral vision. With the CU glasses I can typically peer over the frame for the first couple of clips, with Belay Specs I prefer to leave them hanging on my neck till the climber is a few bolts off the ground. Not really a significant difference. The Belay Specs are heavier, which becomes noticeable on the nose during long belay sessions.

Both come with plastic carrying cases. The CU case is a little nicer with tailored foam inserts, but both work adequately.

Both come with keeper cords, the Belay Specs are attached with heat shrink plastic in a choice of colors (you can pick cord color too.) Color choices are a nice touch and will be helpful as glasses are more widely used.

Ordering Belay Specs is easy on their website. As far as I can tell, ordering CU Glasses requires leaving a message on the answering machine of the American distributor.

My wife has used her glasses for three years without any problems for that entire time, except for one episode I'll describe below. One of the lenses of my first pair of Belay Specs fell off the very first time I used them. My second pair is doing fine, but it has only been a couple of weeks. So the durability question remains open for Belay Specs, in my opinion.

Customer Service- when my Belay Specs broke, Phil sent me a new pair immediately, even before he received my broken ones in return, even included cash to cover my shipping. Couldn't have been better. When my wife first had her CU glasses, one of the little silicone pieces covering the metal nosepiece disappeared. She contacted the American distributor who suggested she strip the insulation off some wire and replace it! This didn't seem reasonable for a pricey pair of glasses, so she contacted Albi in Germany who promptly sent replacements plus a few extra pieces just in case. Worked out OK, but I wonder if Albi would still be as responsive.


What's the bottom line?
Both glasses are good. You won't go wrong.
If you have a very sensitive nose or if money is no object, then I suggest the CU Glasses, for their lighter weight and proven record of durability.
If the thought of spending $150 on belay glasses makes you crazy, then you can get a fine pair from Belay Specs and I really like the way they stand behind their product so far.

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By NickinCO
From colorado
Oct 14, 2012
after the hard stuff, into cruiser hands.
Great post Mark, after spending a week at indian creek my neck was killing me. I can see a pair of these in my future and it's nice to know I don't have to shell out an arm and a leg.

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By Belay Specs
Oct 15, 2012
Thanks for the review Mark, it seems pretty balanced and honest. Belay glasses, whether Belay Specs or CUs, are a great addition to any climbers pack. We started Belay Specs in part to try to bring them to a wider audience by making them more widely available and at a reasonable cost.

I'd like to address the durability issue that Mark mentioned. Mark was one of our first customers and on the first two dozen pairs of Belay Specs made we had an issue with the epoxy that bonds the frame and prisms together. We had made some small changes to our assembly procedure since our pre-production run that had caused poor the bonding. Once we detected the problem we were able to correct it and have contacted those affected to get them replacement product as needed.

I'd also like to point out that we have a 30-day money back guarantee on Belay Specs and as Mark said, we work hard to take care of any issues our customers have. If you have any questions about Belay Specs please check out our website or send us an email.

Thanks,
Phil Wilkes
belayspecs.com

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By Rocky_Mtn_High
From Arvada, CO
Oct 15, 2012
Lamb's Slide
Any discount coupons for MP members? :-)

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By Dana Bartlett
From CT
Oct 15, 2012
These glasses are not a gimmick. When it comes to climbing equipment I'm very set in my ways and pretty resistant to new things, but I tried a pair of CU glasses and they were fantastic.

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By worth russell
From Brooklyn, NY
Oct 18, 2012
just ordered a pair a belay specs. I wasn't gonna pay the big bucks for the German ones. I'll follow up once they arrive and i take em for a spin.

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By rock_fencer
From Columbia, SC
Oct 18, 2012
Myself placing a a blue/yellow offset MC to protec...
do any of these companies make a clip on version for those of us already bespectacled?

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By Belay Specs
Oct 18, 2012
Rocky_Mtn_High: The first 10 people to use the coupon code "MTNPROJECT" at checkout will get free shipping. (Note: We will only honor free shipping codes on US orders. Any international orders using a free shipping code will be refunded and asked to reorder without a free shipping code.)

Rock Fencer: Belay Specs were designed to work over prescription and sun glasses. There is a picture on the front page of the website of someone wearing them over sunglasses. We do offer a 30 day money back guarantee so if they don't work with your glasses, returning them won't be a problem.

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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Oct 20, 2012
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LOL!

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By Bob M
From Alpharetta, GA
Oct 25, 2012
T Wall
Had a question about these glasses, so I emailed the company. Got the reply less than an hour later. Placed my order that day, and 2 days later they're at my house. Great service!

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By Jason Halladay
Administrator
From Los Alamos, NM
Oct 25, 2012
Climbing at the Belvedere crag near Nago with a gr...
Great review and write-up, Mark. After a year of using some DIY belay glasses we purchased a pair of the CU glasses last year and have been very pleased with them (after getting over the sticker shock.) If I didn't already have the CU glasses, I'd go with the Belay Specs.

A few years ago an acquaintance of ours had a small seizure while belaying. She'd never had any seizures like that before and the hypothesis was years of looking up while belaying had resulted in nerve issues in her neck, I believe. I've often wondered if someone has done any research on the long-term effects of belaying. Nonetheless, I certainly feel much better after a weekend of using belay glasses versus how I used to feel after looking up all weekend. I'm sold on belay glasses.

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By Belay Specs
Nov 14, 2012
There has been a good response to the free shipping coupon code for Mountain Project users so we're going to keep it rolling.

For those of you that have purchased a pair, let everyone know what you think.

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By Jason Halladay
Administrator
From Los Alamos, NM
Nov 14, 2012
Climbing at the Belvedere crag near Nago with a gr...
Belay Specs wrote:
There has been a good response to the free shipping coupon code for Mountain Project users so we're going to keep it rolling. For those of you that have purchased a pair, let everyone know what you think.

I'm still holding out for a significant Black Friday deal. :-)

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By worth russell
From Brooklyn, NY
Nov 14, 2012
Bought a set of belay specs. They look lame but work like a charm. I get my balls busted but everyone who belays me wears them and wants info on where to get a set. Very practical and they magnify slightly. East coast seal of approval

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By GabeO
From Denver, CO
Nov 21, 2012
My wife and I bought a pair of the CU Belay Glasses in Europe on our honeymoon. Three years later, they're doing awesome - still love 'em (the glasses and the wife) as much as ever.

GO

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By Perin Blanchard
Administrator
From Orem, UT
Nov 22, 2012
Racking too much gear, as usual.
I've owned a pair of the CU glasses for a couple of years now, and all day yesterday I got to use a friend's Belay Specs.

The optical performance and the comfort of the Belay Specs was identical to my CU glasses (which is to say: excellent in both aspects).

My only complaint about the Belay Specs is the tether (the cord attached to the temples [arms] that goes around your neck). The cord is just a bit too short and makes it more difficult to get the glasses over your head while wearing a helmet.

This isn't a problem for the CU glasses as the tether is attached with sliding loops and so can be situated at the end of the temples.

However, the Belay Specs attach the tether closer to the hinge with shrink tubing and thus the tether isn't adjustable. Making the cord about four inches longer would solve the issue for me.

Obviously this isn't a big issue and can be easily solved if, like me, you wear a helmet when belaying.

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By Phill T
Nov 22, 2012
Been using a pair of the CU glasses, they are awesome. The only issue that I've recently found is rockfall. If your climber rips something off the wall or drops something on you, its really hard to dodge it. you see it coming through the glasses fine, but no one has practiced dodging shit through a prism. the time it takes to actually look up and reacquire the rock...yeah its awkward. wear your helmet! Not a deal breaker for me, but just be aware.

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By G McG
From Victoria, BC
Nov 22, 2012
If you're interested in the CU glasses, find a few others who want some and place a bulk order through Germany. We got 3 pairs at once and it came to $115 each, after tax, shipping, duty, etc, etc.

Only issue I'd have with the Belay Specs, by the sounds of it, is having to leave them off for the first few clips. Personally, I'd rather not have to fiddle with something or take my attention away from my climber. But sounds like they're pretty decent regardless :)

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By John Aalam
Feb 1, 2013
There are new belay glasses on the market called Belaggles. Check out belaggles.com. Wider lenses for a wider field of view. Cool color options and come with case, cloth, and retainer. Comfortable and good price too.

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By MojoMonkey
Feb 1, 2013
John Aalam wrote:
There are new belay glasses on the market called Belaggles. Check out belaggles.com. Wider lenses for a wider field of view. Cool color options and come with case, cloth, and retainer. Comfortable and good price too.


Registering to post an ad without at least disclosing your relationship to it (and the domain is registered by someone you share a surname with) seems spammy.

At least you didn't claim you just heard about it or say how much awesomer they are.

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By John Aalam
Feb 1, 2013
Sorry, didnt mean to spam at all.

Full disclosure, I work with Vertical Vision, the company making Belaggles. There wasnt a company name option on setting up the MP profile.

I was going through forums and saw this conversation so thought I'd let everyone know there is another option in the market too.

Apologies to all if the message seemed misrepresented.

John

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By GhaMby
From Heaven
Feb 1, 2013
I'll buy them when they are in the $30 range, otherwise I can't figure how two pieces of glass stuck to a chunk of metal could be so expensive. Are they at least made in a first world country? I hate letting third world countries have jobs.

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By Glenn Schuler
From Monument, Co.
Feb 1, 2013
A grey fox skull wedged in a crack 100' up on a FA...
sweage dude, once you're a bit older and your neck hurts like f#*king hell every time you're out there climbing/belaying.... $130 is chump change really when you think about it. I got the CU glasses and they work well - I recommend them to anyone considering the "dork" glasses..

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By Belay Specs
Feb 1, 2013
sweagan wrote:
I'll buy them when they are in the $30 range, otherwise I can't figure how two pieces of glass stuck to a chunk of metal could be so expensive. Are they at least made in a first world country? I hate letting third world countries have jobs.


I can't speak for other companies but Belay Specs are priced based on our costs and standard industry mark ups.

As to your second question, Belay Specs are made in Salt Lake City, Utah by me. While we source our prisms from China, everything else is domestic as far as I know. Our cases come from a company on the east coast and we use Sterling cord. We source stickers and advertisement cards from American printers. We have our frames cut locally out of American stainless steel. I bend the frames with hand-powered sheet brakes and custom bending fixtures. After prepping the frame and prisms, the prisms are bonded to the frames by hand using fixtures to align everything.


It's difficult to make inexpensive, high quality products in America and still pay the workers a living wage, especially when the products aren't mass produced by large corporations.

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By Mark E Dixon
From Sprezzatura, Someday
Feb 1, 2013
At the BRC
It's embarrassingly decadent, but I just bought a second pair of belay specs to use in the gym. My neck is fine, but once you get used to using these glasses, you miss them when you don't have them.

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By Andy Laakmann
Site Landlord
From Bend, OR
Feb 1, 2013
Racked and loaded... name that splitter behind me?...
My wife and I love our belay glasses. I wish they existed 20 years ago.

And I bet in 15 years, when 90% of climbers are wearing them, we'll all look back and laugh at the "dark ages" before belay glasses ;)

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