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A better ways to keep track of routes you've done?

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David Stallman · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2010 · Points: 20

So some other site out there that seems to be pretty hard to navigate, has a sweet feature where it takes all the climbs you've done, and shows you in a sweet tree-diagram how many of each grade you've done, and how many of them were onsights or redpoints or TRs.

I like how you can add ticks and your profile keeps track of them on here, and can put them on a map for you too, but could we get some kind of system like the above? I think it would really help see what grades you've barely started on and what to build on to progress.

Or maybe as an intermediate, let us sort our ticks?

thanks guys

Julius Beres · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jun 2008 · Points: 364

Someone posted this a while back:

invisiware.com/ticklist/'put your number here'

In the above, change 'put your number here' to your user number from mp.

For example, if you go to your user profile, you will see it in the URL.

For the OP, it is 106766014

So:
invisiware.com/ticklist/106…

That gives you all his ticks sorted by difficulty.

Sorry, I don't remember who originally posted that link, but it is a cool little script. Unfortunately, it doesn't distinguish between red points, onsights, etc. It also does weird sorting with climbs like 5.11, 5.11+, 5.11-,5.11a, 5.11b, etc. but that is an artifact of MP (where should 5.11 without a number fit in on the spectrum? But 5.11- should definitely not be considered harder than 5.11+)

David Stallman · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2010 · Points: 20

that's pretty fancy- I obviously need to add more ticks, but JLP has a good point that it's kinda weird that they show up on route pages. +1 for a switch to disable that

Jace Mullen · · Oceanside, Ca · Joined Jan 2011 · Points: 10

I'm not able to find out my number, any hints?

However, I don't keep track of what I climb on here, maybe I should start being more dillegent?

Nick Wilder · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2005 · Points: 4,098

David, I like the sound of that. Give me a URL to "some other site" and I might implement something similar here.

Peter Franzen · · Phoenix, AZ · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 3,730
shuminW wrote: There are already way too many newbs and gumbies on this site for the elite to want to contribute (although I really appreciate guys like jstar posting routes here), not to mention the majority of the elite climb oversea and it's not like we have much of an international presence or database. On the other hand, take away the user base, about anything is better than 8a.nu.
While it may be true that the "elite" members of the climbing community don't frequent this site as much as Supertopo or 8a, I don't think it should be attributed to the number of "regular" climbers that congregate here.

That said:

-I think that some additions to the tick list would be great. A few modern visualizations of the number, frequency, and grade of a user's ticks would be a cool thing to have.

-Opting out of having your ticks displayed on a route page would be nice too, although I think that if you give a route a grade it should NOT be allowed to be an anonymous contribution.
Peter Franzen · · Phoenix, AZ · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 3,730
Nick Wilder wrote:David, I like the sound of that. Give me a URL to "some other site" and I might implement something similar here.
8a.nu masks their URLs from the look of it, so it's not possible to link straight to a page that shows it.

Go to anyone's profile page on 8a and click "Routes" near the top and you'll see what we mean.

[edit]

Or I could actually be helpful and post a screenshot:

Peter Franzen · · Phoenix, AZ · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 3,730

I don't want to turn this into an 8a vs. MP debate, but:

The forums on 8a.nu have a grand total of 22,470 posts. Compare that to 273,578 here or a few million at RC.com and it becomes clear that nobody is talking about much of anything at all on 8a.

Plus, the standards among the moderators in our forums are far higher than RockClimbing.com's to begin with. That doesn't mean that every asinine conversation will get locked or deleted, but it is our goal to keep things just a little more mature.

M Sprague · · New England · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 5,090

Unfortunately, there might need to be some stepping up of the censoring, Peter. It is starting to get pretty obnoxious to have to wade though a lot of the posts. It is sad to see how many people don't have the sense to keep their mouths shut when they only have the urge to insult or write something really juvenile.

A little form note sent to abusive posters might be enough to wake some of them up.
I really like the way we can share route info here and have interesting conversations, a few silly ones, or even as a place to work out some disputes occasionally, but I would hate to see MP get more like RC.com, with pages of flame wars, or have a ranking system like 8a.nu. 8a.nu's pyramid diagram of route ticks might be useful as a training tool for some though.

Nick Stayner · · Wymont Kingdom · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 2,315

FWIW, I think being able to see other people's ticks has benefits. Where's the beef with having your name show up on the route page when you "tick" it?
When researching new areas or new routes in general, I find it invaluable to know how many people have climbed the route. It's a nice way to cross-reference the star rating. For example, I'm way more apt to check out a four star classic that's been climbed by a dozen people than I am to do a "four star classic" rated and climbed only by the dude who added the route. For me, one of the greatest things about this site is its attempt to achieve a consensus in route quality. Being able to see other people's ticks of a route only enhance that feature.

David Stallman · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2010 · Points: 20
Peter Franzen wrote: 8a.nu masks their URLs from the look of it, so it's not possible to link straight to a page that shows it. Go to anyone's profile page on 8a and click "Routes" near the top and you'll see what we mean. [edit] Or I could actually be helpful and post a screenshot:
Basically something very similar to 8a.nu's pyramid is what I was trying to get at.

and- correct me if i'm wrong- routes already show how many people gave it stars, the ticks are almost excessive. I kinda like the ticks to put comments I can look back at and see how far I've progressed mentally or how awesome a trip was, kinda useless personal inside thoughts that probably do more cluttering than helping in the community, but are invaluable to me. just my 2 cents
Peter Franzen · · Phoenix, AZ · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 3,730
M Sprague wrote:Unfortunately, there might need to be some stepping up of the censoring, Peter. It is starting to get pretty obnoxious to have to wade though a lot of the posts. It is sad to see how many people don't have the sense to keep their mouths shut when they only have the urge to insult or write something really juvenile. A little form note sent to abusive posters might be enough to wake some of them up..
I agree. Feel free to start another thread in this section if you want to get a discussion going on the current state of moderation. We always like to hear back from people on how we're doing!
Rich Farnham · · Nederland, CO · Joined Aug 2002 · Points: 297
Nick Stayner wrote:FWIW, I think being able to see other people's ticks has benefits. Where's the beef with having your name show up on the route page when you "tick" it? When researching new areas or new routes in general, I find it invaluable to know how many people have climbed the route. It's a nice way to cross-reference the star rating. ...
I don't currently use the "tick" feature because of the public nature of it -- feels like spray. I probably would use it if there was a "switch" to keep it private. But Nick has an interesting point. Maybe a middle ground would be to keep listing the ticks of people who didn't turn it off, as well as a line for "anonymous ticks" that just shows a tally of how many other people have ticked it privately?
Morgan Patterson · · NH · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 8,960

8a.nu has been around for years and years & is the international standard for recording hard send... copying their system might be a good idea but trying to one up them... seems futile. What I am to do try to transcribe 10 yrs of climbing ticks from their system to MP?
Likely not... but for noobs starting out it might be a good idea.

And the ranking is rad - especially when ur in the top 100 in ur country.

Nick - Number of routes per year

Nick Wilder · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2005 · Points: 4,098

I added this just for fun. Here's my page, but it will work for all of you (that have ticks).
mountainproject.com/u/nick-…

I can imagine more:
- Boulder rating breakdown
- trad/sport pie chart
- you suggest it - if it sounds fun, I'll add it!

Jon Behrmann · · Herriman · Joined Sep 2008 · Points: 475

I would be curious to see a Trad/Sport Breakdown. This is great. Thanks for your efforts here.

Josh Olson · · Durango, CO · Joined Mar 2010 · Points: 255

Awesome Nick! Now I can actually see the point in adding ticks!

M Sprague · · New England · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 5,090

Copying 8a.nu's layout would be kind of skanky without their permission, if not outright copyright infringement. Something to think about. What's wrong with 2 different sites, 8a.nu for those into keeping score and MP for sharing information? Personally, I very rarely go to 8a.nu any more and stopped putting ticks in years ago. 8a.nu is basically only good for spraying or checking out pictures of hot looking European woman climbers (a good enough reason for existence IMO.)

Chris Plesko · · Westminster, CO · Joined Oct 2007 · Points: 485

Love the tick breakdown. Something else fun to play with. I tick everything just as my only climbing log. Could you add boulders? Could you toggle on/off including all of one grade together such as list all 5.10s instead of 10-, 10, 10+ etc?

Thanks for adding to the site!

Peter Franzen · · Phoenix, AZ · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 3,730

Adding boulder problems would be greatly appreciated.

Adam Paashaus · · Greensboro, NC · Joined May 2007 · Points: 791

There is most likely no easy answer to this but, one small prob I have with this system is that if you dont top out a multipitch route, there is no way to log the pitches that you have done. For example my list shows I have climbed 5.12 and *sigh*, I have not.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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