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By Ben Brotelho
From Albany, NY
Apr 22, 2013
Epic free solo with a pack on

EricSchmidt: take the debate elsewhere. If you're not going to be respectful to the 5 snowboarders who just died, then please don't say anything at all.


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By EricSchmidt
Apr 22, 2013

Meh, no thanks ben!

I think I am being a lot more respectful than Paul who is suggesting they died because they were high and uneducated.


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By Sir Wanksalot
From County Jail
Apr 22, 2013

EricSchmidt wrote:
Meh, no thanks ben! I think I am being a lot more respectful than Paul who is suggesting they died because they were high and uneducated.


Dude, you need to check yourself. Your being disrespectful because people died, and you're being a pretentious jerk. I don't expect you to understand, but take it easy and start a thread bashing avalanche training and BD et al for inventing shit to keep you "safe" in avalanche terrain.

My thoughts go out to all the victims loved ones. Snow science is complicated, and one thing is for sure, when dealing with avalanche terrain, your really at the mercy of mama Earth. These guys had experience, took a risk, and paid for it big time. Very sad series of events indeed.


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By coppolillo
Apr 22, 2013

Ben Brotelho wrote:
EricSchmidt: take the debate elsewhere. If you're not going to be respectful to the 5 snowboarders who just died, then please don't say anything at all.


+1


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By Buff Johnson
Apr 22, 2013
smiley face

The online Post article has put up some better information this morning about the circumstances of the surviving party.

There will be a multi-agency debrief this week to try and figure out what happened leading up to and throughout the incident. I would check with the CAIC for anything more pertinent as time passes.

Condolences are passed along, this has hit all the professionals very hard.


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By Nick Stayner
From The Magic City
Apr 22, 2013
Nick Stayner near the crux. Ryan Minton photo.

Yet another reason mountainproject folks should stick to talking about climbing. Someone please lock this thread- it's repulsive.

My thoughts are with all of those involved with the events over the weekend.


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By EricSchmidt
Apr 22, 2013

Sir Wanksalot wrote:
start a thread bashing avalanche training and BD et al for inventing shit to keep you "safe" in avalanche terrain.


Dude can you read? At all?

That is the exact OPPOSITE of what I am saying. I think you have me confused with the other guy who is bashing that stuff. Learn to read before commenting next time.


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By coppolillo
Apr 22, 2013

Digging the hole...deeper.......deeper..........and deeper still.


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By Tony T.
From Denver, CO
Apr 22, 2013
Getting up the Great Dihedral on Hallet Peak, RMNP.

Wow, way to show respect to those who have passed.

The people criticizing this group for going out are either illiterate or have no concept of what professional/expert backcountry riders means. Every single one of the people in this group was an expert. No, seriously, experts. As in, taught avalanche safety classes, had decades of on the snow experience between all of them, and had an overwhelming amount of snowsense and ability. No, CAIC's forecast that day was not blinking red, and was the same orange it is for most of the winter when backcountry riders get out.

All of the victims had family and friends who cared a lot about them, some of which are members on this stupid site. So if you don't want to appear insensitive, shut the fuck up about the tired backcountry avalanche debates, and just show some fucking respect for the people that were expecting to see supportive outpourings and instead ruined their day by finding this post inundated in inane drivel.


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By Cor
Apr 22, 2013
black nasty

+1 Tony!


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By EricSchmidt
Apr 22, 2013

Tony T. wrote:
Wow, way to show respect to those who have passed. The people criticizing this group for going out are either illiterate or have no concept of what professional/expert backcountry riders means. Every single one of the people in this group was an expert. No, seriously, experts. As in, taught avalanche safety classes, had decades of on the snow experience between all of them, and had an overwhelming amount of snowsense and ability. No, CAIC's forecast that day was not blinking red, and was the same orange it is for most of the winter when backcountry riders get out. All of the victims had family and friends who cared a lot about them, some of which are members on this stupid site. So if you don't want to appear insensitive, shut the fuck up about the tired backcountry avalanche debates, and just show some fucking respect for the people that were expecting to see supportive outpourings and instead ruined their day by finding this post inundated in inane drivel.


Thanks. Hopefully Paul B and coppopillo figure this out finally...


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By Ben Brotelho
From Albany, NY
Apr 22, 2013
Epic free solo with a pack on

Tony T. wrote:
Wow, way to show respect to those who have passed. The people criticizing this group for going out are either illiterate or have no concept of what professional/expert backcountry riders means. Every single one of the people in this group was an expert. No, seriously, experts. As in, taught avalanche safety classes, had decades of on the snow experience between all of them, and had an overwhelming amount of snowsense and ability. No, CAIC's forecast that day was not blinking red, and was the same orange it is for most of the winter when backcountry riders get out. All of the victims had family and friends who cared a lot about them, some of which are members on this stupid site. So if you don't want to appear insensitive, shut the fuck up about the tired backcountry avalanche debates, and just show some fucking respect for the people that were expecting to see supportive outpourings and instead ruined their day by finding this post inundated in inane drivel.


Amen.


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By coppolillo
Apr 22, 2013

Tony T. wrote:
show some fucking respect for the people that were expecting to see supportive outpourings and instead ruined their day by finding this post inundated in inane drivel.


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By Tom-o Sapien
Apr 22, 2013
Conky and I confront Patrick Swayze

Wow.
I really am amazed at the outpoor of true sentiment from Our Community.
It is immeasurably unfortunate that there are those among us that must continue to spew vile statements directed to those that lost their lives persueing their passion.
They may have been climbers, or not. Many among us dream beyond the vertical realm and enjoy tasting a different slice of life.
We are here on this planet for such a brief time.
Live life to the fullest.
My sincere condolences to the Families and Friends.


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By ErikaNW
Apr 22, 2013
Rapping off the Matron October, 2010

Cor wrote:
+1 Tony!


+1000


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By Clifton Santiago
Apr 23, 2013

Christopher Peters, 32, of Lakewood; Ryan Novack, 33, of Boulder; Ian Lanphere, 36, of Crested Butte, Rick Gaukel, 33, of Estes Park, and Joe Timlin, 32, of Gypsum.

They were experts in their field, mentors of their passion, and an example that you can work for fun. They leave a legacy of inspired individuals motivated to spread their stoke, who found a way to be what they do.

RIP


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By JoeP
From Littleton, CO
Apr 23, 2013

Very sad indeed, especially so for Chris Peters...first time in the backcountry was his last. RIP to all of them.


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By George Bell
From Boulder, CO
Apr 23, 2013
Hip trouble ...

Very sad, my condolences to all families involved.

A few names have been corrected in the official news: Ryan Novak and Ian Lamphere (both from Crested Butte).

Rick Gaukel seems to have a mp account.


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By justin dubois
From Estes Park
Apr 23, 2013
Lost Cities 5.12a,Black Canyon,CO

man, there really are some tasteless assholes who feel compelled to slag these men who died.
not really the place to measure our p.p.'s gentlemen....

I knew, and skied with Rick on occasion, and I can say he was a professional to the letter.

He will be missed here in Estes for sure.


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By s.price
From PS,CO
Apr 23, 2013
 Morning Dew ,self portrait

Very sad. Even sadder are some of the comments here. Bottom line is SHIT HAPPENS! Dale Earnhardt died in a fairly routine crash. And no one at the time had more experience than he did. Shit happens people. Condolences to all.


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By Clifton Santiago
Apr 23, 2013

Thanks for the corrections, George. I knew Ian briefly in CB, not well enough to catch that. The rest was copied from a newsfeed. Just wanted to put the names out there, so that people know these were real people, not props to bounce theory off of.
Condolences to family and friends.


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By EricSchmidt
Apr 23, 2013

s.price wrote:
Very sad. Even sadder are some of the comments here. Bottom line is SHIT HAPPENS! Dale Earnhardt died in a fairly routine crash. And no one at the time had more experience than he did. Shit happens people. Condolences to all.


Agreed completely. I am glad PaulB finally deleted his comments hopefully copopillo will do the same and show the deceased some respect.


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By coppolillo
Apr 24, 2013

Fund set up for Ian Lamphere's little girl....

www.indiegogo.com/projects/fund-for-madelyn


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By Nick Stayner
From The Magic City
Apr 24, 2013
Nick Stayner near the crux. Ryan Minton photo.

Good article memorializing the victims: www.denverpost.com/news/ci_23092683/five-victims-colorado-av>>>

I would suggest that if you feel you have something to offer to the discussion of the accident, please contribute it to the wildsnow thread listed above. The level of dialogue & knowledge regarding backcountry skiing is a lot higher than here.


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By coppolillo
Apr 24, 2013

Nick Stayner wrote:
The level of dialogue & knowledge regarding backcountry skiing is a lot higher than here.


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