4 wheelin?

well I am on a break from climbing and I took my jeep 4 wheeling this weekend. I spent alot of time and money trying to make this happen (fixing old problems $400+ roughly), and as I am sure some of you know it can be frustrating when things don't work out in your favor. I was doing great, no problems, no hang ups or anything driving well. All of a sudden my brothers jeep stops running and we have to go back down this trail (him having no engine power). This was a pretty rocky trail (7 or 8 out of 10 being the hardest)and we were about 1/3 of the way up so this resulted in some creativity and man power to "LIMP" off the trail (boulder mine field at times). In the process I got frustrated because I really didn't like the sittuation and tried to push his jeep from behind, which was a really bad idea. I had mentioned that getting him off the trail was going to break our only other car/ link back to civilization, and I brought my nightmare to life.

In the event of the push things changed and he came rolling back at me, his bumper nails my grill, my fan smashes into my radiator, radiator snags the fan and tweaks it so it cut's the hell out of the radiator (as it spins while the motor runs). Now I too am stuck downhill rock racing my powerless jeep, coasting/ hauling a$$ through nasty boulder fields, to maintain speed not to get stopped and block the trail. What a mess! Now I must invest more time and money, getting things back to a safe location (towed) and fixing them. It's a bummer cause I was just about to do some upgrades but now I am set back. Guess that's just how it goes, while it lasted it was a blast, and totally worth it.

Can anyone relate?
BTW what do you drive?

83 CJ-7 258 bored .60, MSD Ignition, 4:1 DANA 300, 6.69:1 granny transmission (NP 435), lockers front and rear, and 36 inch tires.
buggy type cage work soon to come, Im gonna hack the rear half from the windshield (hack the body that is, box the frame).

we were on carnage canyon in boulder today, anyone ran it? this was my third time, and my 2nd radiator in a row.

Try Mosquito Pass - I recommend going from Alma to Leadville (the beer in Leadville tastes much better after that run).
Or hit the Slaughterhouse; tooling back into Turkey is kinda cool too. But, I'm all for not motorizing a designated wilderness, I believe I just use the established lines.

93 YJ 4.0L in-line 6, new trany, new clutch, exhaust mani, but the engine took a dump @ 240k. Looking to replace with a Jasper, any thoughts?

Perfect big dog vehicle. Looks great with an imaginary Preble or an elkhead mounted on the front guard; front license plate requires bailing wire. It's what I call the Anti-Boulder. A thirty-aught or shot-gun is a nice added option on the roll bar. Not bad including a bikini-topped companion with a strong brake grip, either.

Mark Nelson wrote:Try Mosquito Pass - I recommend going from Alma to Leadville (the beer in Leadville tastes much better after that run). Or hit the Slaughterhouse; tooling back into Turkey is kinda cool too. But, I'm all for not motorizing a designated wilderness, I believe I just use the established lines. 93 YJ 4.0L in-line 6, new trany, new clutch, exhaust mani, but the engine took a dump @ 240k. Looking to replace with a Jasper, any thoughts? Perfect big dog vehicle. Looks great with an imaginary Preble or an elkhead mounted on the front guard; front license plate requires bailing wire. It's what I call the Anti-Boulder. A thirty-aught or shot-gun is a nice added option on the roll bar. Not bad including a bikini-topped companion with a strong brake grip, either.

Im not sure about the Jasper, but I have hit slaughterhouse. Pretty easy though IMHO. My jeeps fromt plate is similar to what you mentioned, I think it is tied with parachute cord and a bungee strap. Never gone over mosquito but have done weston in a subaru.

have you ever seen spring creek or carnage canyon? better yet blanca, indy, holy cross, 21 road, and buena vista's carnage canyon? those trails are tough. Mark if you are serious about wheeling you should consider a locker, a cheap one runs bout $300 and is well worth it, lock rites are easy to install. It prevents tires in the air from stealing all of your power and leaving you going no where, like on rutted out hills or when you lift a tire in any occasion.

If you are ever in the Buena Vista/Salida area, there are numerous trails of all difficulty to run. St. Elmo probably has the highest concenration of trails, including Iron Chest, Hancock, Pomeroy Lakes, Baldwin Lake, Mt. Antero, Tincup, Tomichi, Alpine Tunnel, and the list goes on. Towards Buena Vista, Carnage Canyon is waiting to eat up the hardest of hardcore wheelers. In Salida, Rattler and Minesweeper are the trails to run, but make sure your rig is up to it. I run a 94 Cherokee with a 3" and 31's, and I have run all trails but Carnage, Iron Chest, Rattler and Minesweeper for the simple reason that my Jeep won't make it. Sad, but true. Also, regarding the locker, I wouldn't necessarily recommend the Lock-Rite. They just don't cut it if you are serious about wheeling. Grab something stronger like a Detroit or an ARB. Yeah, they cost more (a lot more), but you will be much happier in the long run. I hope to stick an ARB under my rig when the funds allow it.

I run bigger tires then anyone would recomend with my stock axles(dana 30 with warns, and amc 20 with 1 piece shafts), and I run lock rites front and rear. I have had nothing but success so far, however I take the finess light crawling approach instead of the thin pedal. 122:1 helps too. If you like to tear your shit up then yea, an ox locker might be my choice, I have heard of trouble with both tearing lines on an ARB, and wearing out bearings and causeing diff failure from the Detroit(happened to my brother's rear ford 9 inch). My brother is going the Ox route soon when he swaps his axles again for full width's (he got a front Ox used for 500).

How are rattler and minesweeper? I haven't made it down that way with my rig yet, although maybe that has to do with a top speed of 50mph.

driving up antero is not cool. high peaks should be for walking up.

Went back to carnage this weekend and got my revenge! Some good body damage but all vital components are in tact.

A note on Antero, it is lame, stock toyotas can drive up there. besides, why would you want to walk up a road either? blanca would be better anyway, sick wheeling to get there and good (technical)routes on little bear (the crestones come to mind too). Antero is great if your from Kansas, or a mineral hunter, good smokey quartz crystals and some more exotic and way harder to find aqua marine. Just my opinion.

right on greg, I used to be on co 4x4 but I was idle for too long. I don't know if I will get out much more this year due to my brother frying his wiring, and I don't really feel like going with out him. but if I change my mind I will let you know.

This summer is going to be a blast, besides climbing......

I got some 39. 5 inch IROKs with a D44 front and Ox locker, building a 14 bolt . going full width form CJ width.

Caging it up! It's going to be pretty crazy.

That Lake Como Rd by Blanca is the worst road I've seen in CO. We were walking down the road from the lake, and passed two jeeps on foot! They didn't pass us back until near the very end down on the flats. I can't understand why anyone would want to drive a road that takes more time than walking it.

To bring more beer in George.

you know allen does have a point but the real reason for it is the challange to push the rig and driver as far as possible.

gasoline athletes! 8$ per gallon will cure all this crap! talk about needing to show some respect for fragile environments. JEEE-ZUS!

this is mountain project, not tiny pee-pee project. go climb.

could have sworn this site was climbing related, oh well at least there's summitpost.

I jeep, therefore, I climb!

(there, back on topic)

Wow, some people really like to point out to others just how retarted they are.

If you don't like it then don't say anything! Besides you don't have to preach your enviro bull to me you tree hugging piece.....

I love to be acitve in non motorized ways too like hiking and climbing, backpacking and backcountry snowboarding, all human powered means to the end. I would like to say that 4 wheeling is fun in a different way, it takes skill and consentration, and knowledge. If done right it's not that much worse then driving on pavement and will do no more damage that has already been done considering it's a freaking road you are driving on.

Now I would also like to say that I am in no way saying that no one fucks up and makes a mess and destroys shit but I am saying that we aren't all like that.

You should go over the the message board at TGR and preach to them that they should hike from denver for their lines because driving up 4wd roads in the spring kills the earth.... RIGHT!

Alright done venting, I am supprised it lasted this long before some one had to start flinging the proverbial mud.

Back on topic.... Still waiting on parts but stoked to try some super hard trails in about a month with some luck.

39.5's & a d44. Good luck with that if it all locked up. Prob wont last too long, but i Guess if you've been running 36's on a d30 and AMC20 you know how to preserve axles!

Carnage canyon and indy both look like sick trails i want to hit someday when i'm not a broke college student with a broke truck that wont fix itself!

I think I will be ok, the strait six is going to have trouble turning those things let alone breaking shafts/ RP. I'm geared damn low too 6.69:1 first gear to a 4:1 t-case to 5.13's. More of a crawler personally, don't like to tear things up (the enviroment or jeep). I figure the 14 bolt will be the work horse anyway(with a detroit), and I have an ox up front so I can turn it off if needed. Eventually I will probly go chrome molly shafts and cryo-freeze them with ctm u-joints (in my dreams, life is too expensive now), could probly run 42's on that set up with out worrying too much if you don't have a supercharger or a v8 and are geared low enough.

I luv this.

Moe: Geez, this hot rod is souped up six ways from Sunday! Never had
you figured for a gearhead, Homer.
Homer: Oh yeah, I'm a real expert.
Moe: What is that, a six barrel holleykauf?
Homer: You betcha!
Moe: Pedal block intakes?
Homer: Nothing but.
Moe: Miya half lifters?
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Moe: I made that last one up!
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