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By Matt Wilson
From Bethel, Vermont, USA
Apr 26, 2013
NC Rock Climber wrote:
The kid has balls, I'll give him that. I hope he gets some common sense and instruction before he gets really hurt.


Being ignorant of danger is not the same as having balls. A 5 year old who finds a loaded handgun in his grand daddy's closet and decides to play with it does not make the child really brave.

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By DavidLG
Apr 26, 2013
1. No instruction on how to belay
2. Communication...too much can she take a cup of shut the hell up??
3. Gear placement abundant but he fails to take advantage even though he is breathing hard which to me indicates he needs lots of gear.
4. Nice tight belay on second try, a little tighter and she could have pulled him off for the 2nd time and finished the job.
5. Good use of slings etc. to equalize the anchor right?? No wrong
6. Never took the time to see if he was really injured just started climbing.
Too many things to even continue to count that are wrong on so many levels.

It was definite attempt to commit suicide that failed.

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By Eric G.
Apr 26, 2013
I watched up until he fell.

I NEED to quit the internet.

Chris treggE wrote:
Also, what a chosspile.


It looked like the route was half mud.

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By NC Rock Climber
From The Oven, AKA Phoenix
Apr 26, 2013
tanuki
If you pause the video right after he lands and look closely at his belayer you will see that her brake hand is not on the rope at all. (EDIT - See Matt's pic below. I was wrong. She does have her brake hand on the rope, just the wrong side.) She tried to stop him with her other hand on the other side of the ATC. The thing that amazed me most was her total lack of understanding that she almost killed the dude. He didn't seem to phased by the fall either.

Matt, I won't argue the point with you and I do totally understand what you are saying. The kid is obviously very ignorant of the risks he is taking and has not educated himself on the basic craft of climbing. HOWEVER, he is out there getting after it. If he lives long enough, his gear won't be shiny for long. I see too many posers with massive new racks that only toprope and talk big. With that in mind, this kid is refreshing. At 45 years of age, I look back at my first few year of climbing and cringe at how ignorant I was and the risks I took, both out of hubris and ignorance. I got lucky and a mentor found me. I hope that someone more experienced will take this kid under his wing.

Now, who looked at the anchor at the end of the "aid climbing" video. OMFG, it is a disaster!

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By Matt N
From Santa Barbara, CA
Apr 26, 2013
OTL
NC Rock Climber wrote:
The kid is obviously very ignorant of the risks he is taking and has not educated himself on the basic craft of climbing. HOWEVER, he is out there getting after it. If he lives long enough, his gear won't be shiny for long. I see too many posers with massive new racks that only toprope and talk big. With that in mind, this kid is refreshing.


Another one of his videos - he states he's been climbing 14 years and really gotten into the last 3.

Must have 9 lives.

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By EricSchmidt
Apr 26, 2013
NC Rock Climber wrote:
I see too many posers with massive new racks that only toprope and talk big. With that in mind, this kid is refreshing.


How is being cautious instead of being a complete dumbass refreshing? Its "refreshing" to almost see a dude kill himself!?

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By Eric G.
Apr 26, 2013
EricSchmidt wrote:
How is being cautious instead of being a complete dumbass refreshing? Its "refreshing" to almost see a dude kill himself!?


Oh. My. God. Am I losing it?


I agree with Schmidt.

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By Matt N
From Santa Barbara, CA
Apr 26, 2013
OTL
NC Rock Climber wrote:
If you pause the video right after he lands and look closely at his belayer you will see that her brake hand is not on the rope at all.


Its totally on the rope - just not the braking side.

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By NC Rock Climber
From The Oven, AKA Phoenix
Apr 26, 2013
tanuki
Matt N wrote:
Another one of his videos - he states he's been climbing 14 years and really gotten into the last 3. Must have 9 lives.


Wow! Based on some of the BASIC mistakes he makes and his level of ignorance, I thought that this kid had just been climbing for a few months. Either he is not being honest about his experience or he is MUCH stupider than I thought. Not knowing what you are doing after a few months is one thing. Being ignorant of the basic craft of a potentially life ending endeavor after "really being into it" for three years is just stupid. Wow.

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By Matt Wilson
From Bethel, Vermont, USA
Apr 26, 2013
Matt N wrote:
Its totally on the rope - just not the braking side.


After seeing how ignorant the climber is of saftey, not only can I not fault the belayer, but I feel sorry for her as she is probably learning many dangerous habits from him.

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By SendaGorilla
From Boulder
Apr 26, 2013
NC Rock Climber wrote:
(EDIT - See Matt's pic below. I was wrong. She does have her brake hand on the rope, just the wrong side.)



Actually you were right the first time. If you look closely, right after he falls, he looks back to her only for us to see her quickly put her hand on the break! (she knew she fucked up and was trying to cover it up)

If you check out some of his other crappy videos you'll be blown away by how ignorant these people are. (belayers AND climbers alike)

What is REALLY scary is that noobs like these are becoming the norm. I see fucked up shit like this all the time around Boulder crags. It's pretty trendy around here :-)

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By teece303
From Highlands Ranch, CO
Apr 26, 2013
Aiding.
I never had a mentor. I read books and taught myselft the rest out in the real world. The key is to not be an idiot. On my very first day of climbing, I would have known this guy was dangerous.

Because, go figure, I educated myself about the deadly thing I was trying to do *before* I got out there and put my life on the line. But hey, that's just me.

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By David prsn
From Tustin
Apr 26, 2013
Temple crag, dark star
I hope he decides to chime in.

https://www.facebook.com/jfgp147?ref=hl

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By teece303
From Highlands Ranch, CO
Apr 26, 2013
Aiding.
FWIW, the belayer is cute and I'd totally let her belay me, terrible as she is, in the hopes of getting somewhere. However, I'd make for damn sure it was on terrain beyond easy for me, and someplace with *solid rock*. The only times I've ever taken completely surprising and instant falls were when rock broke, so I would really want to minimize the possibility of that happening!

It's amazing how stupid pretty ladies can make straight guys.

But this guy seems to have bigger problems.

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By SethG
Apr 26, 2013
If you look at his facebook video page you'll see that he is looking for SPONSORSHIP.

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By Patrick Vernon
From Albuquerque, NM
Apr 26, 2013
mexico
Holy hubris Batman!! Check out the interview on the youtube page.

Am I the only one who thinks the fact that his belayer doesn't know how to belay is completely his fault? I wouldn't be surprised if this was her first time belaying ever from this video. Proper instruction folks. Make sure your noob belayer knows what the hell they are doing before you leave the ground.

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By NC Rock Climber
From The Oven, AKA Phoenix
Apr 26, 2013
tanuki
Interview? Link please.

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By Jon C. Sullivan
From Fort Collins, CO
Apr 26, 2013
approach to the Grand
I. Am. Sick. Of. This. BULLSHIT. This guy sucks, no questions asked. you know he does because he helmet cam's his sh#%$y climbing. More and more of this kind of noise is popping up and it's causing me some serious concern for the upcoming generation of climbing. You know, in the past couple of months or so, I have seen countless people between Shelf Road, Indian Creek, Red Rocks and BoCan putting their belay locker through their hard points instead of their, what's that thing called, oh yeah, a belay loop. I wonder why we call it this? certainly not to belay from. hopefully the weenies get too scared one day and sell their shiny unused racks on MP for dirt cheap. I could use a few .75's
Good Grief,
Jon

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By Patrick Vernon
From Albuquerque, NM
Apr 26, 2013
mexico
The speed soloing video is clutch as well. I don't know what is worse, this guys videos or the fact I am watching them on the first warm and sunny day in weeks.

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By Colonel Mustard
From Reno, NV
Apr 26, 2013
Colonel Mustard
Get this guy a reality show STAT!!!

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By Dustin Drake
Apr 26, 2013
Definitely isn't anywhere close to 30 feet.

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By EricSchmidt
Apr 26, 2013
Isnt she using a grigri? So I am going to guess he was just in groundfall territory and would have decked regardless of belay technique. Plus arent grigris technically "hands free" anyway?

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By Colonel Mustard
From Reno, NV
Apr 26, 2013
Colonel Mustard
EricSchmidt wrote:
Isnt she using a grigri? So I am going to guess he was just in groundfall territory and would have decked regardless of belay technique. Plus arent grigris technically "hands free" anyway?


Look at the vid still, looks like she has two, count 'em, two atc devices on her. Both being employed about as effectively, I might add.

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By Jon H
From Boulder
Apr 26, 2013
At the matching crux
This kid clearly places a lot of stock in being "a climber." Maybe one of the more benevolent among us who leaves nearby Mr. Fleming can take him out and re-teach him everything he thinks he knows. If not, it will inevitably be the same guy who doesn't take him out who will wind up coordinating his rescue when Jason craters from more than 30' (haha, yeah right) off the ground.

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By Patrick Vernon
From Albuquerque, NM
Apr 26, 2013
mexico
At the end of the video you can see it is clearly an atc.

Ha Jon, I am moving to Albuquerque next week, where this guy lives. Maybe I'll just stick to bouldering for a while.

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