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2 bolt anchor

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keithconn · · LI, NY · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 35

Whats your 'go to' when you have two bolts to build an anchor. For some reason I always use the Quad. Interested to hear what others instinctively use.

Jason Todd · · Cody, WY · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 1,114
Jake Jones wrote:Two quickdraws.
This for single pitch.

Multi pitch- Two biners with cloves, alpine butterfly between for master point.
If I'm feeling extra safe, replace one of the cloves with a fig-8.
curt86iroc · · Lakewood, CO · Joined Dec 2014 · Points: 274
Jake Jones wrote:Two quickdraws.
ill use 2 draws if one of the biners is a locker. if not, 3 draws (opposite and opposed gates on the side that is doubled up).
Justin Brunson · · Tacoma WA · Joined Jun 2010 · Points: 2,266

I've put lockers on a pair of draws for 2-bolt anchors.
I had a scare when I went to clean an anchor that 5 of my beginner friends had just toproped on, and I found one of the draws nose-hooked.
My locking draws are overkill, but they make it harder to make the same mistake again.

Mike · · Phoenix · Joined May 2006 · Points: 2,615

For multi-pitch I often tie either a double 8 on a bight or 2 clove hitches with the rope, then belay off a masterpoint below. Depending on the situation I might leave a long tether & clove in short.

Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 349

Two quickdraws. If partner(s) are going to lead.

If a gang TR is to commence, two alpine draws... one with lockers.

I am amazed at some of the set ups I see.....

Max Forbes · · Colorado · Joined Jan 2014 · Points: 108

I like my quad too, seems to work pretty well in most situations.

RDW · · Toronto, Canada · Joined Nov 2014 · Points: 185

Forgive my ignorance, but what is this`quad`you speak of?

I'm a fan of a pre-set sliding X with limiter knots. Super fast to set up/break down.

Mike Marmar · · Salt Lake City, UT · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 67

Quad: seekingexposure.com/meet-th…

I personally think it's overkill.

For slingshot TR, two draws, preferably one locking. If they are both non-locking try to set them at different heights (if there is chain) so that they don't interfere. I once came up to a two draw anchor to find that both rope-end biners had caught against each other and opened the gates.

For multi or top belay with chains, clip a draw between the bolts, clove to one chain, belay off the other. This is a variation on the banshee belay.

For multi or top belay with no chains, double length sling with masterpoint.

keithconn · · LI, NY · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 35

Sliding X is second for me. Here is the quad. I agree it may be overkill, which is why I might be asking this question, but it is quick to set up.

Quad anchor

mediocre · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2013 · Points: 0

Never heard of the quad anchor, but it doesn't look incredibly redundant. We've got 2 draws with 2 lockers each. A little overkill, but if/when I get hurt climbing, I'll be damned if it's because of a sport anchor.

Ted E. · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2014 · Points: 15

I haven't used the quad yet, but then again I haven't lead multi pitch yet. So when trading leads on a single pitch if the bolts are nice and relatively even I'll just use two draws.

TR and otherwise: lockers on bolts, an appropriately sized sling or two and a figure 8, alternatively replace sling with cord, still figure 8 because it unties easier.

B-dog · · Denver, CO · Joined Dec 2013 · Points: 30

Single pitch: quad. I like it, I have a cordelette tied into a quad and just leave it tied.
Multipitch: slings and lockers with an X.

Bill Kirby · · Keene New York · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 480

I use two draws for single pitch. One draw has wire gates the other has lockers.

For multi I use a cordlette. I use the rope when swinging leads. Sometimes I use a sliding x and limiters

A partner uses a super long dyneema sling and ties a figure 8. I would like to try that out.

redlude97 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2010 · Points: 5
mediocre wrote:Never heard of the quad anchor, but it doesn't look incredibly redundant. We've got 2 draws with 2 lockers each. A little overkill, but if/when I get hurt climbing, I'll be damned if it's because of a sport anchor.
What? its about as redundant as you can get. About 3 things have to fail before the anchor fails except for the 2 bolts or 2 lockers.
Jason Halladay · · Los Alamos, NM · Joined Oct 2005 · Points: 15,153
Mike Marmar wrote:For slingshot TR, two draws, preferably one locking. If they are both non-locking try to set them at different heights (if there is chain) so that they don't interfere. I once came up to a two draw anchor to find that both rope-end biners had caught against each other and opened the gates. For multi or top belay with chains, clip a draw between the bolts, clove to one chain, belay off the other. This is a variation on the banshee belay. For multi or top belay with no chains, double length sling with masterpoint.
Pretty much this for me too
redlude97 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2010 · Points: 5

BTW, the answer to the OP depends on the situation. multipitch trad, cordlette or rope if swinging leads. Multipitch sport, draws or rope depending on if swing leads or in blocks

keithconn · · LI, NY · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 35

I was going to leave that one alone, but yeah, it's pretty darn redundant.

Ryan M Moore · · Philadelphia, PA · Joined Oct 2014 · Points: 35

Single pitch: two draws

Single pitch TR: two draws plus rope clipped into a draw on the final bolt

Multi-pitch: lockers with two slings with sliding x master point, clove into master point.(nylon not Dyneema slings)

Ben Gleason · · Durango, CO · Joined Oct 2013 · Points: 61

I usually just use a long sling with an overhand at the master point. Fast and simple, but it doesn't seem to be a popular option. Is there a reason why?

Tom Sherman · · Austin, TX · Joined Feb 2013 · Points: 433

I'll chime in, because I really like this method. I use this when we plan to TR a route, or otherwise want to be super-safe.

2 Alpine Draws, 2 Lockers

Put an alpine draw on each hanger. Undo the rope end biner and attach to hanger as well, opposite/ opposed other biner. Now add a locker to each alpine draw.

So now you have opposite opposed non-lockers on each bolt hanger, and 2 locking biners on the rope. When you lock everything up make sure both locking biners goes through both slings.

Gear for 2 bolts

Gear for 2 bolts, setup

Make sure you do this

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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