Another Accident due to mis-use of the Gri-gri

docsavage wrote: trouble is nobody wants to be belayed by ATC or other tube device ...

Wut? That's just silly. Have your belayer use whatever they are most comfortable with.

that guy named seb wrote: Well done, you weren't belaying properly a GriGri even with out the camming action still works the same as tube devices,

Wrong. Whatever else your arguments, this is demonstrably false. Maybe you don't know everything after all?

docsavage wrote:Healyje - my problem with the Grigri is that it's counterintuitive - the instinct during a fall is to clutch at something, not relax & let it happen ... that said, I would not mind someone belaying me with one if that's what s/he was comfortable with ... trouble is nobody wants to be belayed by ATC or other tube device ... guess that's why I mostly rope solo instead ... using a modified Grigri no less (I know, 'yer gunna die' ... )!

Yeah, being belayed by a grigri is just inviting being dropped unless you know the person is old-school competent.

I also rope-solo about 75% of the time. Used a modded grigri for years until the Edelrid Eddy came out. It's vastly superior to the grigri, great with 9.8's, but especially when paired with a Maxim Glider 9.9.

Eddy setup...

Healyje wrote: Yeah, being belayed by a grigri is just inviting being dropped unless you know the person is old-school competent. I also rope-solo about 75% of the time. Used a modded grigri for years until the Edelrid Eddy came out. It's vastly superior to the grigri, great with 9.8's, but especially when paired with a Maxim Glider 9.9.

Is that a PAS on Healyje's harness? Joe, don't you ever get tired of the "old school trad climber" circle-jerk? No? Guess I better get out my bingo card...
circle jerk

eli poss wrote:old school

I'm not the one dropping people or being dropped. Until folks start figuring out just what the fuck is required it's a total crapshoot having most folks belay you with a grigri.

Let me help you out there:

Really, it never gets tiring at all when there's this much abject fodder...

eli poss wrote:Is that a PAS on Healyje's harness?

Definitely.

That bingo card is very funny. Thanks for sharing.

Me too, though I would make it 'grigri dropping randomizer'.

As people grow old, they tend to become nostalgic for a past that never actually existed.

The sling through the belay device as a "backup" is ingenious. I'm glad to see people pioneering new ways to make a mess of equipment.

tomW wrote:That bingo card is very funny. Thanks for sharing.

as much as I'd love to take credit, the image was borrowed from a thread about southern climbing ethics and was titled "Southern Ethics Circlejerk" Bingo Card!

PS Healyje, if you ever grow tired of Boulder, go to the south. Your old school crustyness will likely be welcomed there. Plus there's plenty of virgin rock for more 5.11 R FAs that you can spray about.

eli poss wrote: as much as I'd love to take credit, the image was borrowed from a thread about southern climbing ethics and was titled "Southern Ethics Circlejerk" Bingo Card! PS Healyje, if you ever grow tired of Boulder, go to the south. Your old school crustyness will likely be welcomed there. Plus there's plenty of virgin rock for more 5.11 R FAs that you can spray about.

Boulder?! Climbing in Boulder would give HJ an aneurism! The bolts, the young people, the dogging, the Grigri's! Pretty sure HJ lives in Oregon.

Healyje wrote: I don't let folks belay me with a grigri.

sometimes LSD has long lasting effects

csproul wrote: Boulder?! Climbing in Boulder would give HJ an aneurism! The bolts, the young people, the dogging, the Grigri's! Pretty sure HJ lives in Oregon.

Hmmm. Given his "holier than thou" attitude, excess dogma, and some rant about Eldo, I guess I just assumed he was from boulder.

eli poss wrote: Hmmm. Given his "holier than thou" attitude, excess dogma, and some rant about Eldo, I guess I just assumed he was from boulder.

you learn quick eli

T Roper wrote: sometimes LSD has long lasting effects

Never long enough, that's why they invented microdosing.

Zach M wrote:The sling through the belay device as a "backup" is ingenious. I'm glad to see people pioneering new ways to make a mess of equipment.

So, you have a bunch of experience lead rope soloing and with an Eddy?

csproul wrote: Boulder?! Climbing in Boulder would give HJ an aneurism! The bolts, the young people, the dogging, the Grigri's!

Ah, yes, pretty simple, just skip all the adventure climbing in BoCan.

eli poss wrote:Your old school crustyness will likely be welcomed there. Plus there's plenty of virgin rock for more 5.11 R FAs that you can spray about.

You sure have a lot of attitude for an 18 year old with a whopping 2.5 years of climbing experience ticking well traveled 5.9 routes.

Jon H wrote: You sure have a lot of attitude for an 18 year old with a whopping 2.5 years of climbing experience ticking well traveled 5.9 routes.

hey man, start a new thread, this is all about bashing HealyJ now

T Roper wrote: hey man, start a new thread, this is all about bashing HealyJ now

Dude, if that's the case, could you at least step up to something a bit more entertaining than V1 bashing I've been suffering through so far.

Corey27 wrote: Wrong. Whatever else your arguments, this is demonstrably false. Maybe you don't know everything after all?

"When the handle is stuck in this position, the assisted braking function is disabled. A damaged GRIGRI 2 in this configuration will function similarly to a manual belay device (e.g. tube style device)." petzl.com/security/sport/re…
If you are going to say something is wrong at least refer to a reliable source.

Healyje wrote: Yeah, being belayed by a grigri is just inviting being dropped unless you know the person is old-school competent. I also rope-solo about 75% of the time. Used a modded grigri for years until the Edelrid Eddy came out. It's vastly superior to the grigri, great with 9.8's, but especially when paired with a Maxim Glider 9.9.

Good job tri loading a standard caribiner, you really know how to kill your self, at least get one of these. petzl.com/en/Sport/Carabine…