"Climbing in W. Mass and CT Sucks!"

Thanks everyone for the thoughtful and cordial responses. I guess the title of the thread served its purpose by eliciting numerous responses.

Sounds like lots of good options, and perhaps a longer climbing season than I am used to up north!

Nearby after work cragging is definitely a plus!

I may take some of you up on climbing partner offers - and if I don't end up in the Springfield area, I will either be in Boston or New Haven, so will be climbing in the area either way.

And if anyone is interested in linking up in the ADK's for rock or ice - I'm happy to show people around. Tons of great stuff - new and old!

I took those, I-pad pictures. Badly. Sorry for the crap quality.
there is a lot of rock across those two states, at the border between Mass & Ct
and . Everywhere, Golf Courses Sate Parks and backyards.

The taller cliffs are still full of opportunity, 3 pitch sin 270 ft I'm seriously jealous about that.

Comanche?!!

? . It needs wisdom of the elders to open up the great cliffs!
Please & thank you ~ Take pictures not word salad.

Alpine starts ?you are up very early
4:20 am ? In the ice season ( early ? Like now? )
I sometimes climb in the wee hours, but this is great drive time.
Catch sun rise as you pull through New Paltz. Be the first at any climb.
Many of us have done that routine every week. Forever
It has saved the woods and hillsides, and the small but great cliffs & rocks.
In every corner of the North East solid new lines are being climbed.
Don't let the burp posted below, change the subject, or tone.

comanche wrote :
" LOLOLOLOLOL the pictures of those rocks should be black and white because they are state classics right? You can toprope these 12 footers for daaaaaaaayysss "

LOLOLOLOLOL the pictures of those rocks should be black and white because they are state classics right? You can toprope these 12 footers for daaaaaaaayysss

Ha Ha - alpine start!

No not exactly.

I'm writing these posts from Nepal. Been working as a doc for the Himalayan Rescue Association for three months in Pheriche at 14,000'and at Everest Base Camp at over 17,000'. Doing S&R and high altitude medicine work. So alpine - yes - but no alpine start today!

I guess my comment about people with avatars making snide comments wasn't effective.

Nick Weinberg wrote: Been working as a doc for the Himalayan Rescue Association for three months in Pheriche at 14,000'and at Everest Base Camp at over 17,000'. Doing S&R and high altitude medicine work.

Right on man! That's rad!

Morgan Patterson wrote: Yes.. more than enough. The choppings are isolated incidents these days and I would also note there are undeveloped multipitch cliffs in the state.

Nothing "isolated" about the recent choppings in MA.... Seems a certain somebody just took his antics across state lines again. He has admitted to such...

There is also good climbing in Monson and the Sturbridge areas of MA which are convenient to Springfield. Some access and approach conundrums but worth exploring. Monson has routes in excess of 100 feet tall. You can also score yourself a Ken Nichols sighting as he climbs there all the time.

Yeah, its been a pretty interesting and unique gig. Pretty remarkable actually. Psyched to get home soon and gorge on some protein! But I will miss the primary form of entertainment here: yak vs. dog fights......

So many amazing aesthetic peaks nearby that never get climbed because they are only 22,000' and get overlooked by one particular 29,000' peak just up the valley. Below are some shots I took of some examples (if the attachment works).

Nick Weinberg wrote:Yeah, its been a pretty interesting and unique gig. Pretty remarkable actually. Psyched to get home soon and gorge on some protein! But I will miss the primary form of entertainment here: yak vs. dog fights...... So many amazing aesthetic peaks nearby that never get climbed because they are only 22,000' and get overlooked by one particular 29,000' peak just up the valley. Below are some shots I took of some examples (if the attachment works).

Man CT has changed since I moved! haha

Yeah - thought I'd change it up a bit. Unclimbed lines on most of those peaks pictured - and some peaks still remain unclimbed entirely.......and this is one of the busiest parts of the Himalaya.

Although I am fascinated by this Ken Nichol's character; he seems like some enigmatic, unstoppable force - so feel free to keep that topic in the thread. I've been fortunate not to have to deal with that kind of nuisance where I live. There were the bolt wars at Poke-O - but now everybody seems pretty reasonable, and on the same page.

Is there a way to ethically and legally put him out of business????

Nick Weinberg wrote:Is there a way to ethically and legally put him out of business????

Ethically, no he's a loony bin. Legally, yes. Read up on Ward Smith and Ken... Ken is in all practical sense holding the Ragged Mountain Foundation hostage to replacing their historical fixed gear by the constant threat that he will show up and vandalize the cliff, yet oddly enough they still allow him to climb on their private property. They could, reinstate the restraining order on him and replace the gear if they wanted to... then when he was caught on the property by persons, hunting cameras, etc RMF could bring charges as the WMCC did to Ken for trespassing and chopping on their property. Hunting cameras were used successfully to protect other CT crags that were chopped once...

Nick Weinberg wrote:Is there a way to ethically and legally put him out of business????

There's legal stuff in place, but catching him is the tricky part. Additionally, I don't know that the court order applies across State lines. Someone more familiar might have more detailed info.

Its not as adventurous climbing as other places but the climbing is great (amazing cracks). The locations are beautiful if you look at them from the right angle and trap rock is awesome. I've climbed many others places in NE after learning the ropes on CT trap rock and I've never climbed anything like it. I've been away from the CT climbing scene for 2 years now but always make sure to bring the rope when I go visit my folks. I kinda miss it.

yyuk its still raining &100% humidity 80+ degrees out

CTdave wrote:Its not as adventurous climbing as other places but the climbing is great (amazing cracks). The locations are beautiful if you look at them from the right angle and trap rock is awesome. I've climbed many others places in NE after learning the ropes on CT trap rock and I've never climbed anything like it. I've been away from the CT climbing scene for 2 years now but always make sure to bring the rope when I go visit my folks. I kinda miss it.

Here ya' go

Just in case anyone wants to know what Suburban  Roadside looks like

its impossible to show this chunk the lean is mean hard to figure? it is steep the other side is sweet too Over'hanging face side viiew

Why does Michael Schneider aka Suburban Roadside always feel the need to add his 15' choss pile pics/rant to every NE Climbs post. No one cares, give it a break already. Any stop dming people trying to convince them to climb the pebbles in your backyard, its creepy dude.

Troy S wrote: Why does Michael Schneider aka Suburban Roadside always feel the need to add his 15' choss pile pics/rant to every NE Climbs post. No one cares, give it a break already. Any stop dming people trying to convince them to climb the pebbles in your backyard, its creepy dude.

you're welcome ! happy to  entertain

Do ya' know the old saw ?

It takes 1

 to know 1

 what? you want to see another picture from your gym,; Rumney  or that other one, the Gunks? 

look else where.

if you want, I'll open a can///CALL YOU A CLIPPER OR ASK IF YOU HAVE ANY BOLTS? i REALLY NEED TO PUT SOME STUDZ IN ALL THIS CHOSS 

until then 

yes here is more trapp rock for you to ignore...

so sorry to have found a way to get under your skin

my connection dropped , then I had to run the kiddo's somewhere but it is still raining 

so I'm back

if'n ya' don't find it entertaining keep going to those over crowded areas, that become more gym like & filled to the gills with posers like Troy here.

Is the nesting  closer over At West Rock ? can we climb more than 15' pebbles yet?

Obviously,not for bolting

But, there are rumors of some fresh studz

The least climbed wall in the east? Why? No Bolts?
Troy S, didn't know, Now I've changed that.

West Rock Ridge or West Rock of south-central Connecticut,
with a high point of 700 feet (213 m), is a 7-mile (11 km) long trap rock mountain ridge                                                                                                                                                                  located on the west side of New Haven Connecticut .

The ridge forms a continuous line of exposed cliffs visible from metropolitan New Haven and points west.

 West Rock Ridge
 is part of the narrow, linear Metacomet Ridge that extends from Long Island Sound near New Haven,                                                                                                                                  north through the Connecticut River Valley of Massachusetts to the Vermont border.

DM Incoming......It will read mostly like what Ive posted before and yes A question

troy,
you don't have to look beyond the avatar, if you don't like what I post.
 I have respect for you, but would appreciate it, more, if you say something nice or nothing at all.

I don't care what you or anyone who plays this game of YoYo, thinks.about what I post.

It is all good,

Your post portrays you as a .........
 unwilling to look at the quality of the choss that I post?
So I'm equally unsympathetic.to your concerns.

I see you clip bolts,
 I would very much like to see all the rock that I post bolted into submission.
 Can you help me in that goal?
 I have very little invested, & would be glad to pass the FA credit to you or any one.

Wishing you safe sends & safer descents

Michael Schneider
AKA:
Suburban Roadside/

Michael, you need more sleep bro. I suggest 10 to 20 drops of some western mass green dragon.

Nolan Huther wrote:

Troll or not, these posts literally are spam and for some reason I always enjoy seeing a serious, especially an over-serious, thread suddenly spammed with pictures of stacked choss and a massive string of bizarre text

A thread from 2015 no less. 

My $0.02: I lived in CT for 20 years. I climbed there exactly once, which was enough. 

Mobes Mobesely wrote: Michael, you need more sleep bro. I suggest 10 to 20 drops of some western mass green dragon.

Troy S do you see this? It a nice way of telling me TGFO, buit done with a nice tone.

Thank you, Mobes, yes , you gnow what I need & I'll look for that serum.

Do you know if  can I go to Mass for the recreational Yet ?

 They had said that recreational sales would start, be available in June.

Then, when I checked at the beginning of July, i was told  "The End of the summer" . . . . ?

 For all who shake their heads in disbelief  (SMHIDB)  It turns the screws to post what I do.

it leaves every one who crowds into the popular areas, to have to question, :
 if he can find stuff, that looks like that, What can I find, if I hike out past that?

So as much as it makes out to be just a boob
 I assure you , that after a long time at this, The stone I post is clean hard and often hard as nails to climb,

 I invite anyone, to come & check out anything that Ive posted,

With the exception of
The only un-worthy,
way to to short to bother with,
 that sits In a private yard where  horses graze.
The stuff that is posted, back a page.

And with that

Good Night! 

I thought Ragged in CT was pretty awesome. Traprock feels amazing on the hands IMO, probably my favorite kind of rock to climb on.

And it's cool/shocking to climb the same routes that Fritz Weissner was climbing almost a century ago with a hemp rope tied around his waist