Crash Pad Suggestions
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For starters, I realize that there is a search bar to look this up, but oh well. I am looking for a crash pad to replace my old Session. I am looking for a larger pad that will hold up for a long time, any suggestions? (Note: Any price is fine, as I am willing to pay a lot for a nice pad) Thanks! |
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Organic. Thread complete. |
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Asana. They can make a pad & monogram it for you. |
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Is there something more to organic's pads or just cult following? I (not a boulderer) have a Metolious Recon, its big, think they have a bigger as well. |
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The foam that organic uses feels a lot better when falling onto it, especially from higher problems. It's a bit more stiff when you just walk onto it, but compresses well on a fall. Owning a BD Mondo and an Organic Big Pad, the Organic is definitely what I want under the problem if it's a high crux. |
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I'll add more detail to my Organic praise. They are a small business, made in the USA, and more or less custom. That is the easy stuff. The deeper stuff is that the foam is for sure superior in that it holds up well over time. The oldest Organic pad I have I've climbed a lot on since 2008. Still in better shape than some of the Metolius and S7 pads I had over the same time period. They have a cult following for a reason, and I think Josh (Organic) used to work for Cordless which eventually became Revolution so there is some heritage there. Though I could be mixed up on that. |
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Organic pads are pretty but the straps blow and the foam is, IMO, way too stiff. The stiffness can be an issue if you integrate it with other pads. |
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Kinetik gives Organic a serious run for its money, and their chalkpot is really really functional. I've heard that the foam tests to be more durable than Organic's and their pads have loading straps & carries way better than Organic's (important for a big pad). It does also have a waterproof velcro flap system (for wet landing), which may be a bit overkill for most (but does have the additional benefits of keeping the pad from tacoing & not requiring anything else to stack carrying their pads). No doubt Organic is still good, it just ain't the best in the business anymore.
Mike Brady wrote:Organic stiffness can be an issue if you integrate it with other pads.That tells me the other pads suck. They can be a bit uncomfortable for lowballs (you can flip the pad over), but you are not gonna hurt yourself. Bottoming out the foam, however, is really really bad. |
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I took a long fall the other day onto an airpad on top of a big organic on top of a couple madrocks. I highly recommend this combination. |
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Rob Gordon wrote:I took a long fall the other day onto an airpad on top of a big organic on top of a couple madrocks. I highly recommend this combination.Flashed is legit and the air pad is awesome, except for the weight. It would really be best if it was all sitting on top of a mondo or one of hose old 4x8 gym pads. |
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reboot wrote: That tells me the other pads suck. They can be a bit uncomfortable for lowballs (you can flip the pad over), but you are not gonna hurt yourself. Bottoming out the foam, however, is really really bad.Just a matter of preference. I like softer pads for taller lines as I feel they offer a softer and less jarring catch. One time I saw a dudes fibula sticking out his leg because of hitting the edge of a stiff pad. |
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NickA |
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Mike Brady wrote: One time I saw a dudes fibula sticking out his leg because of hitting the edge of a stiff pad.I wasn't there so I don't know what happened, but even the stiffest pad on the market will probably break your leg because lack of adequate support. Other than the weird Madrock air pad, all pads use a layer of closed-cell foam to dissipate the impact over a larger area of open-cell foam at the bottom (some also use a layer of open-cell foam on top to soften the pad a bit). At the edge, you just don't have this area to dissipate the impact & they'll all bottom out too easily. If you have enough pads to layer them on top of each other, then yes, you could consider using softer pads. But if all you got is 5" or less between you & the ground, most budget pads just aren't stiff enough (once they break in). |
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Anyone know of a way to get the giant Edelrid Crux pad in the US? I know Scarpa used to be a distributor and you could buy directly off their site but that seems to have stopped and the only places I can find are in Europe/Australia. I've used one and not been very impressed by the foam durability but definitely liked the form factor. |
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MattH wrote:Asana has the best features but bad foam, Organic has the best foam and 2nd best features (making them both the best overall and best value).I'd contend Kinetik has better feature than Asana & better foam than Organic (though Organic is still far more durable than the next choice), but it's neither cheap nor well known (think Organic before they got big). |
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Voodoo pads are just as good as Organic. And I can't speak to the longevity of Organic pads (never owned one, only used other peoples), but Voodoo pads last a long, long time. |
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Reboot definitely works for Kinetik. |
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Rob Gordon wrote:Reboot definitely works for Kinetik.Incorrect, besides the outdoor industry doesn't pay enough. I own a 5" Organic big pad (see my thread ) and I do have a friend that works/reps for Kinetik and have used all their pads. When I bring my pad out I've not had an envy for anyone else's besides his. I may be biased, but do you have anything to contradict me? |
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Can anyone offer a quick review of the Madrock mad pad? Great price but I assume you get what you pay for... |
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I think you could make an argument that you get more than you pay for. Pads have become rediculously expensive. A budget pad for sure , use a Rei coupon or find a sale, and you can have a great pad for about a hundred bucks. Definitely a good option for the money. I own a Organic Big Pad, a BD Mondo, and a couple Mad pads. The Mad pads are not as good as the high end ones (duh). They soften up quicker at which point they make a great top pad in a stack. IMHO |
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I was just joking Reboot. The Kinetik pads look interesting. (I've always liked carpet on top and the stacking carrying feature is cool.) Though I have trouble believing any pad can hold up better than the Organic and still be soft enough to provide a catch. |