la sportiva cobra

Has anybody used these as crack shoes? I'm looking at a slipper for cracks it's going to be either them or the five ten moccasym's. La sportiva fit me better but i'm willing to go five ten if they are better crack shoes.

I've had both of these shoes for awhile but because the cobras are slightly down turned they aren't the best for full on jamming, but are pretty decent at thin cracks. Compared to the moccasym's though, I think the cobras are better all around shoe (I wear them sport climbing/bouldering) because once the moccs stretched, edging was out of the question at least for me. For pure cracks/ all around comfortable shoe go with the moccs, or for a shoe with better edging capabilities and decent at cracks go with the cobras just go a half size up maybe.

Zak Munro wrote:I've had both of these shoes for awhile but because the cobras are slightly down turned they aren't the best for full on jamming, but are pretty decent at thin cracks. Compared to the moccasym's though, I think the cobras are better all around shoe (I wear them sport climbing/bouldering) because once the moccs stretched, edging was out of the question at least for me. For pure cracks/ all around comfortable shoe go with the moccs, or for a shoe with better edging capabilities and decent at cracks go with the cobras just go a half size up maybe.

I have a pair of TC pro's i was more just looking for a pure jamming shoe in really fine cracks.

Really fine? As in finger cracks or smaller? The Cobras might actually be better (I haven't used them, personally) or even Katana Laces. The downturn actually makes it a bit easier to get your toes in the smaller crack sizes. Moccs are amazing in hand cracks and bigger because the slipper design lets you shove more of your foot in without getting laces/straps caught.

Ted Pinson wrote:Really fine? As in finger cracks or smaller? The Cobras might actually be better (I haven't used them, personally) or even Katana Laces. The downturn actually makes it a bit easier to get your toes in the smaller crack sizes. Moccs are amazing in hand cracks and bigger because the slipper design lets you shove more of your foot in without getting laces/straps caught.

yeah it's more really just for finger sized max, i just use my tc pro's when i can, any thing smaller than fine hands and it wont fit.
Edit: and yes i meant fingers and smaller.

I'm not a very good crack climber, in fact, I suck. I do have a pair of Cobras that are actually a little loose on my feet, but my toes still curl up in them due to the downturned shape. The very few times I tried to climb a finger crack with the Cobras, it was very difficult to get even a tiny bit of my toes into the crack, and it was downright painful. But that could just be me sucking really bad, so take it for what it's worth.

For thin cracks, try the katana laces and see how those compare to the cobras. If neither of those work, the only way your gonna be able to jam is to go barefoot.

eli poss wrote:For thin cracks, try the katana laces and see how those compare to the cobras. If neither of those work, the only way your gonna be able to jam is to go barefoot.

The katanas are going to jam the as the TC pro's apparently they climb cracks extremely similarly and are even on the same last.

The Cobras are my secret weapon on any thin sandstone crack. They rule for rand smearing in pin scars and pods.

that guy named seb wrote: The katanas are going to jam the as the TC pro's apparently they climb cracks extremely similarly and are even on the same last.

I'm pretty sure the slight down-turn on the katana laces will help when the crack is barely wide enough to jam in. Here's a quote from outdoorgearlab

"The more aggressive design actually helps while trad climbing, allowing you to jam even in very small cracks where the TC Pro is known to have trouble. "
outdoorgearlab.com/Climbing…