Trango gear
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highaltitudeflatulentexpulsion wrote: It has a hard to reproduce hiccup where it just flat out drops someone. Not a belayer error either. It's rare enough that only a few people ever get dropped this way.Could you elaborate on this please? I've never heard of such a thing happening and I'd imagine that, if true, it would be outlawed. I also have a hard time believing that Malcom would continue to produce the Cinch after hearing of such a phenomenon. At the very least, I would expect the EU to revoke its certification. Perhaps that's why Malcom "prohibits" TR soloing on the Cinch. |
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eli poss wrote: Could you elaborate on this please? I've never heard of such a thing happening and I'd imagine that, if true, it would be outlawed. I also have a hard time believing that Malcom would continue to produce the Cinch after hearing of such a phenomenon. At the very least, I would expect the EU to revoke its certification. Perhaps that's why Malcom "prohibits" TR soloing on the Cinch.First, Malcolm works with amputee athlethes. Paradox Sports. He's had nothing to do with Trango for at least 5 years. It passes tests (in a vertical line). At a 45 degree angle, it is still nearly impossible to recreate. It fails a statistically insignificant number of times, that said, would you want to be attached to it that .001%? Cue the cinch love defenders... |
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Do know what physically causes the failure? |
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Pnelson wrote:Personally, I can think of no piece of gear that Trango makes which stands out as the "best" in its field.Trango might not have the absolute best gear which I think is arguable. However the price to value of Trango gear puts them at the top of the list for poor climbers like me. Also it seams that I can find Trango gear for sale quite often too which is a double bonus. |
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eli poss wrote: Why do you dislike the cinch so much? I would argue that it is potentially the best TR solo device, if you ignore malcom, that is. It feeds smoothly, allows you to rappel/lower without switching devices, doubles as a belay device, is comparatively light.The cinch has a known (which most folks dont know) issue of the pin getting worn (faster than a grigri) ... If it wear down the cinch may not lock no matter what yr brake hand does cascadeclimbers.com/forum/u… This has lead to accidents mountainproject.com/v/belay… Any cinch use who doesnt check the pin wear or knowingly uses it when the pin is worn is playing russian roulette with their partners lives To emphasize again ... It doesnt matter how awwwsum ur belay technique or brake hand is, if that pin is worn yr climber goes SPLAT !!! ;) |
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I've replaced the pin twice on my cinch. That's not a practice that Trango endorses, but if you're the least bit handy it's easy with a punch, hammer, wood block and a grinder. |
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Trango simply brands and distributes their ropes from PMI |
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highaltitudeflatulentexpulsion wrote: It has a hard to reproduce hiccup where it just flat out drops someone. Not a belayer error either. It's rare enough that only a few people ever get dropped this way.On that note, I've got an almost new (warranty exchange after the pin of the old one wore off) Cinch I'm looking to get rid of: $1000 to a good friend, $100 to someone I don't know, $10 to one of my enemies. I'm not kidding on the prices... |
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how can I become one of your enemies? |
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I'll argue Trango does make the best gear in a few categories. Ball nuts and Big Bros...Good luck finding those in the petzl or BD catalog. |
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+1 for Lanex ropes. |
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Add another for the "i like trango" camp. I've used and own a lot of trango gear over the years - and while some of it (like their cams) isn't the absolute best in the business, 95% of it is excellent. carabiners, slings, ice tools etc... all excellent. Buy their stuff, be happy. |
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Trango ropes are PMI produced |
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bearbreeder wrote: Camp also makes ball nutz ;)I think all the Ballnuts are made in the Czech Republic and then rebranded as either Trango or Camp. |
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rocknice2 wrote: I think all the Ballnuts are made in the Czech Republic and then rebranded as either Trango or Camp.The current versions are made in korea .... As are many biners including the the trango/cypher one i listed in my first post Not too many companies exclusively make their own gear .... For example metolius fs mini an the grandwall papoose (canadian company) are the same biners made in the same factory in taiwan The obvious exceptions for metal gear are DMM and BD Even petzl at one time had (and may still have)some biners made by rock exotica Which is why i find "brand loyalty" especially for brands that outsource very interesting Much of the gear is the same shiet just different smell ;) |
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i bought a trango crag pack. haven't got to use it yet but it is very spacious and i really like the pocket on the side to store your shoes. |
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Trango makes some pretty rad stuff. Never had an issue with anything from them. |
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I absolutely love their ropes, especially the 9.8mm Lotus, great handling and knotbility , not much kink/twist ever, incredible durability. They also have terrific customer service and stand behind their products from my limited experience/ interaction with them. |