Cardinal Pinnacle

Going here Friday to climb. looks like temps are high as 45....brrrrrrrr

does this crag get sun?

It's mostly north-facing, I think.

Edit: Although there is a route called "The West Face," there's not a lot of sun on the crag.

Afternoon sun

Jan Tarculas wrote:Going...Friday...temp...45

Why would you do that?

Jeremy in Inyokern wrote: Why would you do that?

yea good question. I started to realize how dumb this might be. says high 51 now which isn't bad in the sun. Back up would be something at whitney portal

Jan Tarculas wrote: ...Back up would be something at whitney portal

I would say plan to do something sunny at the portal and have the Bam as your backup.

Pine Creek is fantastic as well right now, just came back.

Adam Burch wrote:Pine Creek is fantastic as well right now, just came back.

+1
Do JFMR on PSOM,
mountainproject.com/v/john-…
or....?
was up cardinal last October, Aspendell showed 45º, the pinacle was in the shade, so cold we bailed on first pitch. COLD!

Jeremy in Inyokern wrote: I would say plan to do something sunny at the portal and have the Bam as your backup.

I looked at portal and temps look to just be about the same

Well you have plenty of eastside options that are not at 8,500' I'd focus on that.

Muscrat wrote: +1 Do JFMR on PSOM, mountainproject.com/v/john-… or....? was up cardinal last October, Aspendell showed 45º, the pinacle was in the shade, so cold we bailed on first pitch. COLD!

looks like a great route. how long is the approach? if we climb fast enough is it pretty easy to get to Mustache or Ministry Wall for some cragging?

Pine Creek has no aproach worth mentioning. Look at a map and you will see what I mean

Jan Tarculas wrote: looks like a great route. how long is the approach? if we climb fast enough is it pretty easy to get to Mustache or Ministry Wall for some cragging?

Approach is 15 minutes, you will sweat a little. I have done JFMR round trip in 3.5 hrs, plenty of time to jump on something else. You can walk from there to Mustache or Ministry, or move car, either. If you like .11 crack, Moment of Zen
mountainproject.com/v/momen…
There are numerous new routes on PSOM, almost all slabs, some well bolted, some old school. If you go to Wilson's East Side and ask for Tai he can give you some beta.
And if you have brass offsets they are the bomb on P3 of JFMR.
Enjoy
Done either Pratt's or Sheila?

Muscrat wrote: Approach is 15 minutes, you will sweat a little. I have done JFMR round trip in 3.5 hrs, plenty of time to jump on something else. You can walk from there to Mustache or Ministry, or move car, either. If you like .11 crack, Moment of Zen mountainproject.com/v/momen… There are numerous new routes on PSOM, almost all slabs, some well bolted, some old school. If you go to Wilson's East Side and ask for Tai he can give you some beta. And if you have brass offsets they are the bomb on P3 of JFMR. Enjoy Done either Pratt's or Sheila?

Every time I'm in Bishop area, I've only bouldered at happies/sads/milks or climbed at Owens so I have never gone to Pine Creek and done Pratt's crack or Sheila...

No Brass offsets for me. Will C3s or TCUs be good?

Planing on getting a motel Friday and Saturday with a larger group, but looking to just sleep on the bed of my truck Thursday night. Is the parking at Pine Creek Ok for that?

It will be chilly, and the sun does not hit the camping area all day, but there is really good free camping right there. Go up Pine Creek road 6 miles, there will be a dirt turn out to the left. Car friendly. Trees, creek, flat spots, camping sites. No fires still, and you need a permit (free from forest service) to operate a stove. No cell service, and you can walk to all above mentioned climbs. IMHO, Water is not potable, even with filtering (old mine above).
Just don't tell anyone, Pine Creek is one of my fave hidden gems!

Oh, yeah, C3's are ok, just the highest placement before the crux is a #2 or #3 brassie. The falls are really clean, i should know!

You can see how much fun Pine Creek is / see how stupid some people are on other forums here:

supertopo.com/climbing/thre…

Adam Burch wrote:You can see how much fun Pine Creek is / see how stupid some people are on other forums here: supertopo.com/climbing/thre…

But those other forums are soooo entertaining

Yo Burchy, if tahquitz comes in condition this winter i'm always looking for partners. You willing to climb with silly x15x15?

x15x15 wrote: But those other forums are soooo entertaining Yo Burchy, if tahquitz comes in condition this winter i'm always looking for partners. You willing to climb with silly x15x15?

Are you serious?

I've been waiting for the invitation! I've yearned for the elusive Idyllwild ice, but never been lucky enough to experience it.

nice!!! your on the list, and obviously its a short list... fingers are crossed!

Fantastic!

Watching the weather - some serious locals-only shet right there ;)