Best climbing and Ski Touring Pack?
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I have a Cilo 45l work sack that has seen many days in the mountains and for those that want a basic and simple tube it's pretty solid and light. That said, the suspension doesn't fit my shoulders very well, the straps shredded one of my favorite jackets, the brain smacks me in the back of the head unless the main pocket is full, and I like more pockets and access options for a ski touring pack. It's better as an alpine pack than a touring pack. |
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I've been quite happy with my Osprey Variant 37 in black. I've hauled it up and down dozens of peaks, many days at the crag, and a few short backpacking trips. It's quite burly with a great carry system. It'll do everything you want it to, as that's what I've been using it for this past year. |
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Frank PS, |
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Michael, I'm sure Tuttle makes great haul bags. And I personally use a FISH Atom Smasher for my crag bag, so trust me, I agree with you completely.... but we're talking about dedicate ski-mountaineering backpacks here. Not burly crag bags. Not a single one of the items you mentioned is anything remotely close. |
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Right I know, |
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Salomon S-Lab X Alp 20
Just purchased this for the same reason after going through a few BD models, A Cilo Gear pack, a HMG Ice pack, and a few others. So far I think I will like it better than the other packs even though the rope will now have to go on the outside of the pack. |
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How wide of skis are you using? I found I had a hard time just getting my 87 underfoot to slide in paired together |
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Cold Cold World |
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Maureen Maguire wrote:Cold Cold World This is the bag you are seeking. Custom just about anything you want. I carry fat skis, poles, ice tools, crampons ..have gear loops..everything. They sewed extra stuff for me and custom fit my frame for less than most bags. Pro work, very trim..lightweight, tough fabric with removable foam bivy pad. coldcoldworldpacks.comRight now on eBay I can't seem to get the link to come up but it's a Chernobyl 50L I wish I had waited or could justify it iOS under $150 looks good. .,. |
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Maureen Maguire wrote:Cold Cold World This is the bag you are seeking. Custom just about anything you want. I carry fat skis, poles, ice tools, crampons ..have gear loops..everything. They sewed extra stuff for me and custom fit my frame for less than most bags. Pro work, very trim..lightweight, tough fabric with removable foam bivy pad. coldcoldworldpacks.comCold Cold World Chernobyl 50 L backpack Starting bid:US $75.00 [ 0 bids ] Place bid Enter US $75.00 or more Add to watch list Seller : alczak13 (906 ) 100% Positive feedback Follow this seller | See other items Item condition: Used Medium-sized (3000 cu. in. (50 Liters) pack ideal for one to two day alpine climbs or day climbs in the winter. Lightweight design, durable material,classic legendary quality. Removable/extendible lid Underlid pocket for small items Padded hipbelt with gear loops sized to work as holsters Ski slots Fixed quick-release crampon straps Removable 23"x24"x 3/8" foam backpad 12-14" overfill extension sleeve Internal hydration pocket with hose exit port (bladder not included) Older style tool tubes hold medium ergonomic tools ( Cobras, Vipers, etc.) and straight shaft. Time left: Time left:5d 16h Sunday, 10:50PM Starting bid:US $75.00 [ 0 bids ] Place bid Enter US $75.00 or more Right now on eBay I can't seem to get the link to come up but it's a Chernobyl 50L I wish I had waited or could justify it . . . . under $1oo looks good. .,anyone want go buy a BD .Stone 45? $100 takes it . I am fully jelly!! . .oops I shouldn't have pointed it out. Also if your looking at eBay and see the red 23 pack (no maker)@$49 may be "The REAL, ? Yosemite pak " by FROG? That and the Wave products green monster are the two after the CCW Chernobyl |
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While looking for larger packs I came across this guy, which looks great. |
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I have the CCW Chernobyl as well as the Valdez. Sweet packs, even totally "stock", as are mine. |
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I've had two BCA alps 40 packs (one was an RMA replacement of the other) and both have needed to be fixed extensively. I don't particularly like this pack. They double wall in weird unnecessary placements and the straps aren't sewn securely. The tool carry was improved but isn't great. |
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Greg G nailed it. I use either a 30L or 45L Cilo Gear W/NWD pack for climbing and skiing in the Wasatch & Tetons. Sometimes even the same day with the same pack. With the D rings that allow you to move the ski carry straps around it is really quite versatile. With the larger pack I occasionally use the frame sheet but 95% of the time I just use the bivy pads. Typically I do not use the brains on the packs. I have no problem without having separate avalanche gear pockets. If you are organized you can pull out your probe and shovel just as fast than with separate pockets.(I had my gear out before others in my Level Three Avalanche exam who had ski specific packs.) The middle of the bivy pad makes a great place for a flat blade shovel. With the 45L I have done everything from afternoon cragging to three days in the alpine with the same pack. Don't waste your money on the cheaper cordura version for skiing if your boot packing alot since your edges will destroy the pack in a few days. I have had both packs for several years and they look like new. I would highly recommend cilo gear packs in the W/NWD. +1 for being handmade in the pnw!! |
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I've been very happy with the Lowe Alpine Alpine Attack |
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Ty Falk wrote: Don't waste your money on the cheaper cordura version for skiing if your boot packing alot since your edges will destroy the pack in a few days.I think I have around 100 days of ski touring on the cordura version and only got one cut in the side from an edge. It was easily patched with Tenacious Tape and Seam Grip. I have another 20 or so days of cragging when I stuffed a double rack inside and dragged it around Squamish granite with no real issues. There's also an accessory shovel pocket that's available from Cilo that I have used a lot. I wouldn't stress about getting the cheaper pack if it's what fits the budget and the rest of the feature set fits your needs. |
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Jason4Too wrote: I think I have around 100 days of ski touring on the cordura version and only got one cut in the side from an edge. It was easily patched with Tenacious Tape and Seam Grip. I have another 20 or so days of cragging when I stuffed a double rack inside and dragged it around Squamish granite with no real issues. There's also an accessory shovel pocket that's available from Cilo that I have used a lot. I wouldn't stress about getting the cheaper pack if it's what fits the budget and the rest of the feature set fits your needs.Were you boot packing lots of those 100 days? Two of my buddy's destroyed the cordura packs in a season from ski edges on the sides of the pack. I have done 3 years on the w/nwd packs with at least that much winter use and the sides where my edges hit look like new. |
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I did my share of boot packing but usually not more than 4 miles of carrying skis in a day, more than that and I'd rather go rock climbing. :) |
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Wild Things Andanista is a good cross over pack, although it doesn't carry fat short skis that well. But I it is simple, durable, light, weather tight, and skis and climbs with the best. |