Looking for help with new ice boots
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chocodove wrote:Old thread, but I'll add to the Zamberlan love. Highly underrated IMO. I have a pair of the discontinued Expert Pro GTX and they easily compare to Nepals. Killer discount if you're an AAC member as well.I couldn't agree more...excellent and underrated boots! Since my original post, I also acquired a pair of the Scarpa Phanton Guides at a killer discount...I didn't need them, but the price was just insane and I couldn't pass them up. If I had not ever worn my Zamberlans, I would have thought the Phantom Guides were the most comfortable for my feet. But wearing them side by side (yes, a different one on each foot)...my Zamberlan Paine 3000 just feel WAY more comfortable and nimble on my feet. Looking at the volume of the boots, the Zamberlan Paine look like they have a smaller volume than the Phantom Guides. When I take out the stock insoles on both boots and replace them with my insoles (Superfeet merino white) they are very close in weight with the Phantom guides coming in slightly lighter (only 20g per pair)!. The slightly larger volume of the Phantom Guides may mean that they might be a bit warmer...but I have yet to be in a situation where my feet were cold in my Zamberlans. |
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Also, for reference, if anyone is looking at double boot options...The Zamberlan Denali 6000 are very warm, but very heavy...near a full pound per boot heavier than the Scarpa Phantom 6000, and much less precise. That being said, unless you plan on being out for multiple days where keeping your boot dry will be an issue, double boots are probably not the best option. |
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Since my original post, I also acquired a pair of the Scarpa Phanton Guides at a killer discount...I didn't need them, but the price was just insane and I couldn't pass them up. If I had not ever worn my Zamberlans, I would have thought the Phantom Guides were the most comfortable for my feet. But wearing them side by side (yes, a different one on each foot)...my Zamberlan Paine 3000 just feel WAY more comfortable and nimble on my feet.
Noticed October post when doing some research on the paine 3000. questions for W. Acosta - what is the lowest temperature you have worn them in? what is your street shoe size and your boot size? have you used them for any above tree line mountaineering or primarily ice and approach? Any problems with the zippers? Thanks. |
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the zamberlans seem to be half off right now? |
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saw that as well as active gear/leftlane website. thx |
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Up in the air about both of these boots. They seem equally as good. What do you guys think about the Phantom Guides and Batura 2.0? |
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+1 |
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Thank you for the reply. I want to use them for Ice climbing and a Rainer mountaineering trip. |
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Montana Mike wrote:Thank you for the reply. I want to use them for Ice climbing and a Rainer mountaineering trip.I just got the Lowa Weisshorns, my first ice boots. I wear 10.5, ordered 11 and heel stays put. As for the weight, the Latok with the integrated gaiter is 1900g, while the Weisshorn is 1950g without the additional gaiters that you may want while mountaineering. I wear gaiters year round, even in the summer, as they make stream crossings effortless while keeping scree out of the boot. lowaboots.com/mens/mountain… If you are in Montana, hop over to Bozeman for the ice fest and try them all on. Patience is a beiotch, I know. |