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How to become a guide

Climbs Things · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2014 · Points: 20

Hey, I'm serious about hiring a guide for my girlfriend. She is in Southern California and really wants to climb in Josh tree. Are you available next week?

Gasstoner · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2013 · Points: 135

Sir you must be insane and yes I am available.

Climbs Things · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2014 · Points: 20

Cool. I will pm you with my info. I'm very excited! The certified guiding schools I've looked at are so expensive, and the guides seem very unenthusiastic.

Gasstoner · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2013 · Points: 135

Great looking forword to it.

Kyle MacKrell · · Zion NP · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 0

glory

other · · San Diego, CA · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 15

cheap learn to climb event in jt october 16: friendsofjosh.org/tag/climb…

M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911
Sam Keller wrote:I'm a guide and I can say that .......... Guiding is a great way to make money being a dirtbag.
dirtbags dont have jobs, that is the bulk of the definition of dirt bag

you may be dirty but you have a job, dirtbags dont go to work
Sam Keller · · Mallorca, ES · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 30

Haha, ok T Roper. I see you are doing the whole "no true Scotsman" thing here. I'm gonna have to laugh at you because tomorrow my season is finished and I get to leave beautiful Zion National Park, for Yosemite National Park and the beginning of a 5 month climbing trip.

I work 6 months out of the year, only 3 of those 5 days a week. I get 9 months of incredible climbing a year. My dirtbagging has allowed me to climb in 12 countries on every continent (except Antarctica).

I'm no trust funder. I've had to work towards every climbing trip, but my last trip was a 16 month trip in Austalia, Spain, Utah, Colombia, Washington, Canada, England, France, Spain (again) then Turkey. So I feel I'm doing pretty good for myself.

Dont try to tell me who I am.

Also, I won't reply to anything you write cause I'm going climbing.

M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911
Sam Keller wrote:Haha, ok T Roper. I see you are doing the whole "no true Scotsman" thing here. I'm gonna have to laugh at you because tomorrow my season is finished and I get to leave beautiful Zion National Park, for Yosemite National Park and the beginning of a 5 month climbing trip. I work 6 months out of the year, only 3 of those 5 days a week. I get 9 months of incredible climbing a year. My dirtbagging has allowed me to climb in 12 countries on every continent (except Antarctica). I'm no trust funder. I've had to work towards every climbing trip, but my last trip was a 16 month trip in Austalia, Spain, Utah, Colombia, Washington, Canada, England, France, Spain (again) then Turkey. So I feel I'm doing pretty good for myself. Dont try to tell me who I am. Also, I won't reply to anything you write cause I'm going climbing.
dirtbags certainly dont spend time on the internet telling people they are dirtbags either. they have no job and no internet/smartphone, they dont get on the internet. They dont fly to far away lands, they hang out in campgrounds for months on end while avoiding johnny law daily. They sometimes eat out of garbage cans in Yosemite, sometimes they eat your food at the camp. They might have a car somewhere but usually it is not running or out of gas.

no pro guides are dirtbags, sorry to burst your bubble.
slim · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2004 · Points: 1,103
Mark E Dixon wrote: I went to your institutional learning facilitities
you're knowledge in these areas always astounds me ;)
Mark E Dixon · · Possunt, nec posse videntur · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 974
slim wrote: you're knowledge in these areas always astounds me ;)
Mr Narrator, this is Bob Dylan to me.
My story could be his songs.
I'm his soldier child
Tony B · · Around Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 24,665
T Roper wrote: dirtbags certainly dont spend time on the internet telling people they are dirtbags either. they have no job and no internet/smartphone, they dont get on the internet. They dont fly to far away lands, they hang out in campgrounds for months on end while avoiding johnny law daily. They sometimes eat out of garbage cans in Yosemite, sometimes they eat your food at the camp. They might have a car somewhere but usually it is not running or out of gas. no pro guides are dirtbags, sorry to burst your bubble.
Redefining dirtbag to make sure that guides are not included does not preclude the idea that guides are dirtbags unless of course you own the language.
I know a guide or two who live hand to mouth and would define themselves as climbing dirtbags.
M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911
Tony B wrote: Redefining dirtbag to make sure that guides are not included does not preclude the idea that guides are dirtbags unless of course you own the language. I know a guide or two who live hand to mouth and would define themselves as climbing dirtbags.
OK, how about not many? I hate to see the term thrown around as loosely as it has been recently.
BigB · · Red Rock, NV · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 340

We learned punk rock in Hollywood
Drove up from Pedro
We were fucking corndogs
We'd go drink and pogo...

"Mr Narrator, this is Bob Dylan to me.
My story could be his songs.
I'm his soldier child".....

Lol
Somewhere Mark I may have run....errr..... slammed into you ;)

Tony B · · Around Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 24,665
T Roper wrote: OK, how about not many? I hate to see the term thrown around as loosely as it has been recently.
Less than half of the guides I know total, of course.
But close to half who do not do other things. Of course, the ones who are not famous... and of course those who are working for a larger outfit are much closer to qualifying for the title.

It's a mixed bag.
M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911
Tony B wrote: Less than half of the guides I know total, of course. But close to half who do not do other things. Of course, the ones who are not famous... and of course those who are working for a larger outfit are much closer to qualifying for the title. It's a mixed bag.
Just the thought of a true dirtbag taking classes and getting certified to do anything besides hang out, climb and smoke other peoples dope makes me skeptical. Maybe I'm thinking too much into the actual term "dirtbag". People with their shit together i.e. dont usually turn into dirtbags but I guess its possible, similar to the opposite.
Tony B · · Around Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 24,665
T Roper wrote: Just the thought of a true dirtbag taking classes and getting certified to do anything besides hang out, climb and smoke other peoples dope makes me skeptical. Maybe I'm thinking too much into the actual term "dirtbag". People with their shit together i.e. dont usually turn into dirtbags but I guess its possible, similar to the opposite.
OK, this will help. Think ex-Yosar.
There - qualified trained guides who do exactly all that!
(Plus, eat other people's food and smoke other people's girlfriends.)
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Southern California
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