Slap-slide vs. BUS method?

Eric LaRoche wrote: I don't get it. You brake hand is on the brake strand the whole time.

Buy a book or take a mountaineering class class. Good day.

also if I came to belay and found my parter, cursing becuase his belay device was broken dropped or missing, with a Munter Mule using the slip slap slide or pinch or what ever its called I would be cool with that since an obtuse angle does nothing to increase the performance of said hitch.

I don't really want to be a jerk here, but in the defense of a belay method that has proven perfectly safe for the history of climbing, I feel I must point out that a munter mule is a knot. Sort of hard to belay using a knot...

coldclimb wrote:I don't really want to be a jerk here, but in the defense of a belay method that has proven perfectly safe for the history of climbing, I feel I must point out that a munter mule is a knot. Sort of hard to belay using a knot...

Yes, I'd be angry if my partner was belaying me using a Munter-Mule regardless of the method used....since, well, the rope wouldn't be moving at all.

csproul wrote: Yes, I'd be angry if my partner was belaying me using a Munter-Mule regardless of the method used....since, well, the rope wouldn't be moving at all.

May want to check your facts. And I mean Munter Hitch/italian hitch

By belaying directly off the anchor from an equalized master point, preferrably from a higher placed anchor, it's very easy to employ the locking brake by bringing the two strands of rope together rather than apart as with a conventional belay device.

POST LIMIT:
and I obviously ment the hitch. In fact I used the word hitch in the post. So anyway back to the point in this situation the SSS belay would actually be prefered.

gription wrote: May want to check your facts. By belaying directly off the anchor from an equalized master point, preferrably from a higher placed anchor, it's very easy to employ the locking brake by bringing the two strands of rope together rather than apart as with a conventional belay device.

This is a Munter Mule:
animatedknots.com/muntermul…

I use this frequently to dock haul bags and to occasionally tie off a belay device. I'm not sure how one would belay with this.

This is a Munter hitch:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munte…

This hitch can be used to belay or rappel.

Do you know something different?

Ahhh, I see you've edited. Maybe you should try saying what you mean instead of telling others to "check their facts"

gription wrote:also if I came to belay and found my parter, cursing becuase his belay device was broken dropped or missing, with a Munter Mule using the slip slap slide or pinch or what ever its called I would be cool with that since an obtuse angle does nothing to increase the performance of said hitch.

...just in case you'd like to edit further...

Eric LaRoche wrote: I don't get it. You brake hand is on the brake strand the whole time.

Eric speaketh the truth.

coldclimb wrote:I feel I must point out that a munter mule is a knot.

actually the munter is a hitch and the mule is a slippery hitch. the difference between a hitch and a knot is that a hitch is always tied around something. if this "something" is removed, the hitch disappears whereas a knot will exist until you untie it.

in your defense, though, i've heard the munter hitch referred to as the "HMS Knot"

Point taken Eli. :D