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1st Flatiron soloist (you MSL) - Fess up and stop!

Jason Antin · · Golden, CO · Joined May 2009 · Points: 1,375
NWNINJA wrote: I'm going to run up it after work and try to expunge this turd's ego from the top, I'll take a pic and post before/after on here when I'm done. Let's keep an eye out for this fool and firmly correct him along with any other dbag that defiles this sacred place.
NWNINJA! How'd the scrubbin' mission go?
ROCKMAN2 · · Nederland, CO · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 320

Someone beat me to it...

MSL
This is how it looked by the time I got up to it around 7 last night. I scrubbed it more but it definitely needs a good wire brush scrubbing before it is completely gone. I wanted to take another pic before I left but it was too dark.

Jason Antin · · Golden, CO · Joined May 2009 · Points: 1,375
NWNINJA wrote:Someone beat me to it... This is how it looked by the time I got up to it around 7 last night. I scrubbed it more but it definitely needs a good wire brush scrubbing before it is completely gone. I wanted to take another pic before I left but it was too dark.
Awesome...now if someone could just do the same to "BOULER COLADO"
Mauricio Herrera Cuadra · · North Vancouver, BC · Joined Nov 2012 · Points: 3,908
powhound84 wrote: No, personal perception of righteousness defines an individuals line of acceptable behavior for themselves and others. I don't plan on fighting anyone over graffiti. I'm certainly not going to fight anyone on behalf of climbers. My point is simply that we are living in a very antisocial and cowardly society when everyone's first response to conflict is "call the authorities."
No actual conflict has happened yet so "calling the authorities before it potentially does", seems to me like a good course of action.

Given your point that each individual has their own perception of righteousness, there could be multiple possible scenarios/outcomes at confronting this guy, civilized and non-civilized ones. Do you really want to gamble?

It's a lot better if authorities attempt to maintain order (it's what they're being paid for anyway), than any of us getting personally involved in some unnecessary situation.

And yes, society is screwed up in many ways, and MSL is one good example of that.
Jon Zucco · · Denver, CO · Joined Aug 2008 · Points: 245

There are a lot of solutions to this. I'm just saying that confrontation on the side of the mountain is probably a bad idea...

Thanks to who ever scrubbed it. I still think this should also be reported to someone, but I'm not sure what authority is best in this scenario. It may not be the police.

Stefan Griebel · · Boulder, CO · Joined Oct 2002 · Points: 330
Jon W wrote:Methanol or ethanol will remove sharpie ink completely. Turn the guy in to boulder open space (plenty of rangers around). There's my post for the year....
This is good to know! If anyone else goes up there with the intent on removing this, use a solvent + NYLON brush. A wire brush will get rid of the graffiti, but will also leave a big ol' spot of fresh rock there too.
Morgan Patterson · · NH · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 8,945
Mathias wrote:taginator
That stuff is amazing...

And as someone who's done a little bit of research on cleaning this crap at crags I would very much advise AGAINST using the wire brushes, esp if its a popular area. Instead get yourself some graffiti remover... Taginator is what we found worked best at our crags. No need for a preasure sprayer, just a few gallons of water and some stiff bristled real brushes (i think nylon ones melt). . .

http://taginator.com/wordpress/products/taginator-graffiti-remover-removes-graffiti-from-masonry/

Seriously... use this stuff! And if the boulder open space people don't have it or use it or something like it, I would HIGHLY reccommend someone speak to them about getting a spray bottle or two and a few gallons to keep around for future use. Melt that garbage right off the rocks and wash it away.

And no I don't work for them, have just had amazing results using this product.
Brian C. · · Longmont, CO · Joined Feb 2010 · Points: 1,100

I couldn't get my hands on taginator so took up rubbing alcohol and a toothbrush this afternoon. Somebody had already done most of the work but I went over it again. Still is a nasty spot, but at least not as obvious.

after rubbing alcohol

BigFeet · · Texas · Joined May 2014 · Points: 385

^^^ Bravo, sir.

Allen Sanderson · · On the road to perdition · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 1,203

FWIW White gas will take off Sharpie marking. Also Elephant Snot works quite well on most paints.

Morgan Patterson · · NH · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 8,945

Nice effort at least!

Someone out there should order up some Taginator and finish it up so its completely erased though...

Mathias · · Loveland, CO · Joined Jun 2014 · Points: 306

I can bring the rest of my bottle of Taginator down to someone this weekend. It's not cheap and the shipping is near as much as the bottle, as I remember. It'll get rid of that dark spot. Seriously, I'll bring it down and put it in your hands if you want to use it for this purpose.

Craig Childre · · Lubbock, TX · Joined Aug 2006 · Points: 4,860

Nice work.

I suggest we avoid a direct confrontation. I know this is bad form, but this soloist most likely doesn't. Could be why he solos... because no one will partner with the fool. That said, should you come across this character. Be nice. Don't threaten them with violence. Simply point out that his actions are considered vandalism, and the cops are looking to make an example out someone. Then point out how if we all did the same, the rock would quickly look like the tables at that pizza place in Chicago. Encourage them to join us here on the project and log your ascents here, or get an 8au card. You can also reference that chick that got a nice heavy fine for all the graffitti she laid out in national parks and then posted pics. Don't hate the ignorant, instead relish the opportunity to strip them of as much. Above all, I suggest to be respectful, weather it is deserved or not, people react in a far more positive manner when they don't feel like they are being attacked.

Scott McMahon · · Boulder, CO · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,425
Gno Verucchi · · Boulder, Co · Joined May 2014 · Points: 35

Looks like Dirty Mike and the boys are at it again, found these on top of the 2nd flatiron this morning

List.

List.

David B · · Denver, CO · Joined Apr 2011 · Points: 205

sounds like we should all be climbing with a little spray bottle of taginator

thecmacattack · · Denver, Colorado · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 30
Gno Verucchi wrote:Looks like Dirty Mike and the boys are at it again
They were in there doing something called a 'soup kitchen.' Its nasty stuff.
ROCKMAN2 · · Nederland, CO · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 320
mob
Craig Childre · · Lubbock, TX · Joined Aug 2006 · Points: 4,860

Never underestimate the predictability of ignorance.

thecmacattack · · Denver, Colorado · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 30

and never ignore the predictability of underestimating

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Colorado
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