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Billcoe
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Aug 27, 2015
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Pacific Northwet
· Joined Mar 2006
· Points: 930
My advice to someone who had their belayer drop them ...twice, had followed. EDITED: Shortened AND deleted per request from something I actually had seen with my own eyes, twice and damned near exact as I SAW happen to others to the following fantasy bullshit points so as to have a worthless post that both helps and offends no one due to poor reception and folks belief that they prefer style over substance and don't need my advice:
1) Meh. Don't learn anything from your accident and don't learn from others hard won experience, just go get dropped again. 3rd times a charm? Hip Hip. That's why we pay rescue folks after all, and they'd just be sitting around watching cartoons and eating sugar pops and Captain Crunch all morning, so getting them off their lazy asses is a benefit to them and to you. No escaping the inevitable I guess. 2) Wear your helmet. Kidding. Everyone says it though so it must be true. Right? It won't matter when your tib/fibs are up in your stomach area and your vertabrea scrunched so tight you think Mini-me is a giant (opps, my apologies to any offended "little people or vertically challenged persons"). But my point is that with modern medical thinggys, you'll be back to climbing harder than ever before. 3) Trial and error worked fine for your grandparents, so keep on (once all of the breaks heal) and don't give up. You'll probably eventually get it sorted out. Try try try again and all that shit. I mean, many before you have recovered from injuries and they continue to lead full and happy climbing lives. That might be you the 3rd, 4th and 5th time you slap dirt. It might not even happen again. Haha, and I have a bridge I'll sell you too. 4) And please try and flap your arms like wings like Wiley Coyote in the Road Runner Cartoons to maneuver, as your ass is flying though the air, so as to miss the rocks at the base. If your leader falls and is about to come slamming down on you, why not use the Road Runner method as well to get outta the way? Carry on. Beep-beep
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andrew thomas
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Aug 27, 2015
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Orcas island
· Joined Jan 2015
· Points: 105
If your belayer drops you that does not make them a noob... that makes them a dumbass Sorry I could not make it past the first sentence
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BigFeet
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Aug 27, 2015
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Texas
· Joined May 2014
· Points: 385
Billcoe wrote: Say you have a hot new girlfriend you meet in a climbing gym Found your problem. Is this where things went wrong? Billcoe, maybe shorten this post a bit, and just leave the relevant parts. There is a lot going on in this post that is not needed.
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Em Cos
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Aug 27, 2015
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Boulder, CO
· Joined Apr 2010
· Points: 5
Your possibly valid points about mentoring new climbers are completely overshadowed by your absolutely disgusting post. I'm too appalled to be more eloquent than this: You are super gross.
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Matt Carroll
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Aug 27, 2015
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Van
· Joined Dec 2013
· Points: 249
I'm still at my local telephone pole trying to find bolts to clip into.
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JohnnyG
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Aug 27, 2015
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Nov 2009
· Points: 10
Em Cos wrote:Your possibly valid points about mentoring new climbers are completely overshadowed by your absolutely disgusting post. I'm too appalled to be more eloquent than this: You are super gross. I was hoping Em Cos would reply to this one, and once again she is spot on. Billcoe- you should just delete this thread.
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Tom Sherman
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Aug 27, 2015
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Austin, TX
· Joined Feb 2013
· Points: 433
I thought this is why the GriGri was invented?? Hottie + no experience + GriGri + 6-pack = Great day of climbing, try doing that with an ATC!
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Jared Moore
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Aug 27, 2015
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Truckee, CA
· Joined Aug 2013
· Points: 130
Is it weird that I'm kind of getting aroused?
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B Jolley
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Aug 27, 2015
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Utah
· Joined Mar 2015
· Points: 172
Your just mad that your "buddy" got the "hottie" you didn't, or is it that your "buddy" is into "hotties" and not you.
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WyomingSummits
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Aug 27, 2015
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jan 2014
· Points: 0
So how would you classify the person who dropped me 30ft on top rope?
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rocknice2
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Aug 27, 2015
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Montreal, QC
· Joined Nov 2006
· Points: 3,847
WyomingSummits wrote:So how would you classify the person who dropped me 30ft on top rope? If you're still talking to them.... SMOKIN' HOT !!
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Ray Pinpillage
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Aug 27, 2015
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West Egg
· Joined Jul 2010
· Points: 180
Bill, you're too old for this kind of thing.
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Bonneville Williams
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Aug 27, 2015
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Salt Lake City, Utah
· Joined Dec 2013
· Points: 145
This seriously has to be the worst, most archaic post I've seen in a LONG TIME. Are you sure it's you who won't climb with new people and not new people who don't want to climb with you? Just sayin' man.
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Jon Zucco
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Aug 27, 2015
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Denver, CO
· Joined Aug 2008
· Points: 245
I, I think it's anti noob and pro hottie. Didn't get much else from it though.
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Tom Sherman
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Aug 27, 2015
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Austin, TX
· Joined Feb 2013
· Points: 433
No! The debate is hottie grigri vs. gigi use
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Daniel Winder
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Aug 27, 2015
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jul 2009
· Points: 101
I'll go against the prevailing opinion here and say great post. Written for the demographic that is most likely to find themselves getting dropped. Might be even better if your buddy has a hottie too.
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Bill Kirby
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Aug 27, 2015
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Keene New York
· Joined Jul 2012
· Points: 480
I took away from this that guys will do just about anything to get a date. If the female in question is attractive to males safety goes out the window.. I think?
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Jon Zucco
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Aug 27, 2015
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Denver, CO
· Joined Aug 2008
· Points: 245
So, anti hottie, anti noob, pro safety then?
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Franz N
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Aug 27, 2015
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Mass.
· Joined Nov 2012
· Points: 105
"Blah blah blah, I'm a douche and I think I am important" = this thread.
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Jon Zucco
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Aug 27, 2015
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Denver, CO
· Joined Aug 2008
· Points: 245
That, and you are super gross pretty much sums it up.
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Tom Sherman
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Aug 27, 2015
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Austin, TX
· Joined Feb 2013
· Points: 433
I had an incident this winter, where I let myself receive a questionable belay. Dunno what I was thinking. My friends had taken off for the day, so I kind-of absorbed myself into this guided top-rope group. The kid belaying me said he knew what he was doing, but overseeing him I thought some things were questionable. I wanted to climb so bad that I told myself, "Well his guides are watching" "It's not that tall up there" "How fast could that fat frozen rope go through the device anyway". Needless to say, lesson learned, the climbing in that sense was not enjoyable and I down-climbed instead of letting the kid lower me. Wasn't until back at the car where I had the, what's wrong with you convo in my head. But if it were a hottie... I would have tied in, not looked back, and dyno'd the finish! Jake I've been putting beginners on that GriGri, teaching them to belay since I got it from you. If you have some brains in your head, and the person you're teaching has some brains in theirs, and you go over these things with them and inspect them, teach them on short walls, the learning process is not difficult.
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