Make your Nalgene bottle more durable and unique

gatorade + shitty sling/cord + duct tape - end of debate!

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unless you put that on a swivel, that will unscrew itself right off

MFL wrote:gatorade + shitty sling/cord + duct tape - end of debate!

+1

bearbreeder wrote:Nalgenes are heavy ... Use a plastic water (or pop) bottle ... Tie it off with a thin bungee (knots stay better and self tighten) with a slip knot ... Finish off with overhands This particular one has lasted for a year or so ... Wash it every now and then Basically you save the weight of a small cam Some bottles last longer than others ... I use a ~700 ml dasani personally ;)

this but i would use a clove over a slipknot. maybe it's just mental but a clove seems like it would be less likely to slip off than a slipknot

Don't bother reinforcing that joining piece of plastic (nylon?) - the endpoints fail. Unless you are doing something bizarre, they will be your limiting factor.

DrApnea wrote:Empty Nalgene: 6.3oz ; holds 1000ml water ; $8 And now you are adding on more weight to make it last longer or... Buy a disposable SmartWater bottle from the gas station: 1.2oz empty ; holds 750ml water ; only costs $1 When it smells bad throw it away. Tie a thin cord to it which adds another 0.1 oz. and it can hang from your harness. Plus the threads allow you to screw on a 1.9oz sawyer squeeze mini water filter and then you have unlimited water refills on the walk home for about half of the weight of an empty Nalgene. I know what I pick.

You know plastic bottles that soda and water come in aren't meant to be reused because they aren't the grade of plastic meant for long term food/water storage, right?

caesar.salad wrote: You know plastic bottles that soda and water come in aren't meant to be reused because they aren't the grade of plastic meant for long term food/water storage, right?

Sad that they work better than the ones meant for it than isn't it?

I personally hate nalgene bottles they are heavy, impossible to drink from without spelling crap on you. I never understood why people use them. (well they have some uses but not many)

this thing has done the trick for me for a few years w/ no problems. My old one has a different top than the one pictured.

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caesar.salad wrote: You know plastic bottles that soda and water come in aren't meant to be reused because they aren't the grade of plastic meant for long term food/water storage, right?

They're not meant for reuse because the plastic is not of a type that can be repeatedly cleaned and cleaned adequately. What's more, that "not meant for reuse" is by the manufacturer, not the consumer.

Just make sure you thoroughly clean them out after use, be careful about using them for stuff that can mold or rot (eg fruit juices), and trash them when they're too abused, cloudy, or funky smelling.

ViperScale wrote:I personally hate nalgene bottles they are heavy, impossible to drink from without spelling crap on you.

1. I don't think they have anything to do with your spelling.
2. Perhaps you should address your drinking problem?
:-)

Disposable water bottle users: Yer gonna die!

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Tyler Tworek wrote:Disposable water bottle users: Yer gonna die! huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/…

so wash your bottles ... whether reusable or "disposable" ...

and really yr talking to dirtbag climbers who take a piss or dump at the base, dont wash their hands, then wolf down cheesy poofs halfway up the climb with said hands ...

not to mention all the nasty rodent poop (we found jugs and ledges full of em at lake louise climbing) and other assorted tasty treats ...

i wont even mention the indoor gyms where folks go to the washroom in their climbing shoes and step in the piss and go climb .... or that they dont wash their hands because they want to keep em try or dont want to re-tape their fingers

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As young socially aware and environmentally friendly college students, we all try to do our part in making the world a greener place. But try as we might, we also don’t always have the disposable income to turn such a sustainable goal into a reality. The result? Well I often find myself buying a plastic bottle of water and refilling that same bottle for about a week. Not only am I being environmentally friendly by not throwing it out, but I am also saving myself a few bucks. Right?

A food myth is currently circling that has stopped me mid-refill: refilling plastic water bottles could be killing you.
There are claims that refilling plastic water bottles slowly leaks harmful chemicals into the drinking water. I don’t know about you, but cancer-causing chemicals are not what I want to be drinking in my SmartWater. Where did these nasty water bottle rumors come from? The FDA claims they came from an e-mail hoax that went viral. The information claiming this chemical leakage stemmed from a University of Idaho student’s masters thesis. This thesis was not subject to peer review, FDA review or published in a scientific journal.

The FDA told a different story. Most beverage bottles in the U.S. are made from polyethylene terephthalate (PET), and the FDA has determined that the use of PET is safe for both single and repeated use. That’s right, REPEATED USE. Looks like I will be refilling water bottles for longer than a week.

The FDA does note that reusing plastic water bottles without washing them could possibly harbor some bacteria. Plastics are by nature a sanitary material, but the FDA recommends that you wash the bottle out with hot soapy water between uses. Sounds easy enough.

The verdict? The myth has been busted, but do keep in mind that new and existing research is constantly under review. For now, go ahead and use that bottle for the tenth day in a row. No cancerous chemicals are leaking into your water, and if you skip washing it out once or twice, I won’t call you out on it.

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When consumers choose to refill and reuse convenience-size plastic bottles, should they be concerned about potentially harmful bacteria?

Not if they clean their plastic bottles between uses just as they would other drinking containers. Plastics are by nature extremely sanitary materials, and plastic bottles are no more likely to harbor bacteria than other kinds of packaging or drinking containers. Bacteria thrive in warm, moist environments. Once bacteria have been introduced, virtually any drinking container (coffee mugs, drinking glasses, serving pitchers, etc.) becomes a suitable environment for bacterial growth.

Consumers should clean any drinking container with hot soapy water and dry thoroughly between uses. Bottles specifically designed for extended reuse are often made with wide openings that allow consumers to use cleaning instruments and easily dry them.

What about the University of Calgary study?

A University of Calgary study found bacteria in water samples taken from bottles that were refilled by elementary school students without being cleaned. The author of the study concluded that the source of the bacteria was inadequate personal hygiene practices on the part of students reusing the bottles. The fact that the bottles in this particular study were plastic is irrelevant.

What about the student project that claimed to have found unhealthy compounds in water samples from reused bottles?

The subject of a widely circulated e-mail hoax, these claims stem from a University of Idaho student’s masters thesis that was promoted in the media but was not subject to peer review, FDA review or published in a scientific or technical journal.

While the student project may have been suitable work for a masters thesis, it did not reflect a level of scientific rigor that would provide accurate and reliable information about the safety of these products. Fortunately for consumers, FDA requires a much higher standard to make decisions about the safety of food-contact packaging.

powhound84 wrote: Because Nalgene bottles are much more durable and the cap stays tight without leaking. I've had several flimsy water bottles leak all over inside my pack and ruin my day. Nalgene bottles also resist cracks and punctures better than a disposable bottle. I want to make sure to protect my water when I have a limited amount.

buy the right bottles ... the caps are generally no less secure than whats on twist platys these days

the only time ive had a bottle leak i after months of usage using it as a weight for TR soloing dragging it up against the rock constantly when i get to the top ... hauling the bottle

;)

I personally use a gatorade bottle with some climbing tape around the neck, attached to a biner, sometimes for months at a time. I just thought I'd put the cancer causing / bacteria harboring thought out there to see what other peoples' thoughts were.

Thanks for the extra info.

ViperScale wrote:I personally hate nalgene bottles they are heavy, impossible to drink from without spelling crap on you.

Personally, I'd pay a lot of money for a nalgene bottle that knows how to spell.. well, any word.

Screw you English, I am going home!

If you buy a decent water bottle with a good top you should never have a problem, and they weight a fraction of what nalgene do, and they are so much easier to drink from. You can even reuse them also. I sometimes refill power aid or gator aid bottles as well but they normally take of more room / made from thicker plastic so take up more room for what you get to drink. (much like the nalgene bottle)

What;s that stuff that supposedly leaks out of plastic bottles over time? BPA right? This should be avoided.

most if not all plastic water bottles sold here are now BPA free ...

you old pre 2008 nalgene may have BPA ...

so unless yr using a disposable water bottle thats quite a few years old, its likely "safer" BPA wise than an old nalgene .... which we all know folks still use as they last forever !!!

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In recent years, studies have suggested that polycarbonates, made from BPA and phosgene COCl
2, such as the ones Nalgene used may leach endocrine disruptors including BPA.[5] Nalgene denies that the quantity leached from their products posed a significant threat to health.[5] Among the secreted chemicals, Bisphenol A (BPA) is a concern as it binds to estrogen receptors, thus altering gene expression.[6][7][8] Other research has found that fixatives in polycarbonate plastics can cause chromosomal error in cell division called aneuploidy. Nalgene claims these chemicals are only potentially released from Nalgene products when used at temperatures outside of the designed range.[9]
In November 2007, national Canadian co-operative retailer Mountain Equipment Co-op removed all hard, clear polycarbonate plastic water bottles (including Nalgene-branded product) from their shelves and replaced them with BPA-free Nalgene bottles. In December 2007, Lululemon made a similar move. In May 2008, REI removed Nalgene-branded polycarbonate water bottles and replaced them with BPA-free Nalgene bottles.
On April 18, 2008, Health Canada announced that Bisphenol A is "'toxic' to human health".[10] On the same date, Nalgene announced it would phase out production of its Outdoor line of polycarbonate containers containing the chemical Bisphenol-A (BPA).[11] Nalgene subsequently adopted Tritan, a BPA-free copolyester, made by Eastman Chemical, as a substitute.[12]
While unpublished studies in 2008 and 2009 by Oregon State students suggest BPA does not leach from polycarbonate plastic under extreme conditions, BPA is not the only component of plastics which can mimic estrogen and act as an endocrine disruptor.[13] Unfortunately, plastics made of BPA-free Tritan were later found to leach other estrogenic chemicals in a cell-based assay.[14] Eastman Chemical, the manufacturer of Tritan will not disclose any information about this product or its composition.[15]

;)

bearbreeder wrote:you old pre 2008 nalgene may have BPA ... so unless yr using a disposable water bottle thats quite a few years old, its likely "safer" BPA wise than an old nalgene .... which we all know folks still use as they last forever !!!

That said the soft-sided white nalgenes (HDPE, high density polyethelyne) never had BPA, only the hard-sided clear polycarbonate. I still use a collection of old HDPE bottles, which are lighter (4oz) and more durable (IMO) anyway :)