PSA: Calling All Surface Shitters!!!

I don't believe in anything! I'm just here for the violence.

Ziplocks, people! Even if you're using that TP for blowing your nose instead of the less savory functions you should be packing every single bit of it back out.

I just wish all this shit would stop so we could all be friends again. The thoughts of completing a trail with no interupted strid and the dream of pooch kisses with no offensive oder.... Now that is the substance of world piece. I say.... Lets band together and just stop the shit!

This thread has turned into a real shit-storm, eh Randy?

Jared Moore wrote:This thread has turned into a real shit-storm, eh Randy?

Shit happens

theres a whole system of mountain bike trails going through that area.

I blame the mountain bikers, rich fucks.

^^^+1. For caughtinside as he succinctly hits another home run. Touché!

There is a wonderful book called "how to shit in the woods" and any newb should get it. Woods shitting has etiquette. Learn it.

And this is why you never let your dog lick your face. I've always found that practice incredibly repulsive.

What I don't understand is why someone like Dow, or whomever, has to take an important issue and pick it apart for no apparent reason. Yeah, dogs need to be under their owner's control, and shit should be dealt with accordingly (however that may be). However, I am fairly certain that at least 99.99% of folks out there would agree that seeing/stepping in/having your dog eat human shit is not pleasant. Josh did slam it home. You're the man.

Jared Moore wrote:We hiked out, got to the parking lot, and started loading our packs into the car. I look over and notice my dog enthusiastically eating something about 40 ft. from the parking lot.

and

Jared Moore wrote:My dog is actually quite exceptional at taking shits where people will never see it. And if it happens to be close to/on the trail where you can see it, I fling the poo.

Honestly, this whole thread just strikes me as you being part of that group of dog owners that doesn't take care of their dog at the crag. And then you blame not being aware of your dog on someone else's problem.

If I learned anything from this thread, its that some people think that their dogs are good at hiding their poo as long as they (the owner) aren't watching them, therefore, it doesn't matter if the owner is taking care of that or not. Haha, classic!

Yeah, hypocrite thread to the max.

certainly the unleashed(and out of control) dog didnt take a random crap anywhere...

"And lastly, human poop is far more disgusting than dog poop" OK, plz tell us how you came to this conclusion, I'm curious as hell.

Your dog should be given the brown ribbon for public service. He's a blue bag with legs. Take him up your next El Cap route. He'll have dinner on every ledge, and the climbing community would be eternally grateful. I feel like this would make a great Reel Rock segment.

Ah the joys of living and climbing in the desert - the turds dry up and the TP blows away...only to lodge in the bush 20' away along with the mylar balloon remnants and some tweaker's underwear.

Jared Moore wrote: My dog is actually quite exceptional at taking shits where people will never see it. And if it happens to be close to/on the trail where you can see it, I fling the poo. Are you bored? Or are you, sir, a surface shitter?

In my experience, MOST OWNERS' dogs never seem to shit where they can see it.
That said, both dog owners and woods-shitters need to clean up or bury their shit.

Josh Janes wrote: Furthermore, people are culpable (they should know better), dogs are not.

Thus why folks complain to the owner, not the dog.

Josh Janes wrote: But to insinuate that dog owners you don't even know are equivalent to the clearly selfish or ignorant guy who took a shit right in the open comes across as pretty arrogant.

Arrogant? I do not think that word means what you think it means. And misusing it is ALWAYS ironic.

Yo there are these crazy things called WAG bags. Every climber who gives a shit should always have one or two in their pack. IME sells them at cost. They break down solid and liquid waste and can be packed out. Crazy right?

I was in ISO this winter and lowered from a super popular warm up... Right into a nice pile of human shit.... Call me crazy but this is unacceptable. The shit was at the base of a trad route we planned on climbing next... People need to get their shit together. There is no justification for shitting in a place called isolation canyon. I understand shit happens but I am a firm believer of packing it out.

I have a dog. She was old when I got her, she is trained to have a 300 yard radius and check in every five minutes. She also always shits in front of me( as far as I can tell). I pack it out just as I would my own shit. Now while I understand she can shit when I'm not looking but if you know your dogs size/ eating schedule you should be able to estimate their pooping schedule as well. If I know she has yet to deuce I make her stay by me until said shit occurs.

There is no such thing as a good crag dog but with a bit of training you can mitigate poor crag dog behavior. Even with old dogs. That said even with my dogs 300 yard radius she almost never leaves my pack. I'm not justifying crag dogs shitting over human shitting. I'm just saying if I see shit I pick it up and pack it out.

Don't fling shit and bitch about human shit. Can we all just become a bit more poop conscious ? Climbing is becoming increasingly popular as ethics fall by the wayside. Ever been to Indian creek without a WAG bag? If so I'm sure you took a semi surface shit. What about Joes when they remove the outhouse for cleaning? WAG bags. 2$ get some. I'm sure I'll get some ridiculous responses from this post but meh....
-Don

I should have just left the fucking dog out of the story, damn. That's where this thread went, to crag dogs, which is really important don't get me wrong. I merely wanted to shed some light on the human-pooping situation.

Anywho, when I said "fling poo," I was partially joking, and that may have put the wrong image in people's minds. It simply meant that I take a stick and get it out of the way, or off trail, and out of peoples' sight. After reading all of this, I realize that I should be packing out wag bags and taking care of it properly, which I will put in my pack right now. Flamers flame on, hehe :)

caughtinside wrote: You could have just told us you were an asshole and spared us the novel.

Ha. Classic.

caughtinside wrote: You could have just told us you were an asshole and spared us the novel.

Yeah, but that was so eloquent. It'd be a shame to have wasted it.