I'm looking to buy a crag pack. Suggestions?

bearbreeder wrote: Well if you actually used yr gear a bit more there ray ... But then again perhaps you dont have the same kind of roadside cragging we have out here ... Ran up this gumby crag yesterday If u really feel the need to justify yr dead bird pack on da intrawebz then thats up to you My "shittay" MH pack has lasted 3 years and will likely last a few more For some reason i think youre the type that will buy a new "cragging" pack well before yr miura gets barely used within a few years... And gloat about how great it is on the intrawebz while barely using it ;)

Is it me trying to justify something? Frankly I don't care what you think about me. I was simply pointing out the other side of the coin. Your statements are contradictory but clearly price is a larger factor to you. You've posted pictures of your Arcteryx "collection" on various forums in the past so maybe your opinion just depends on which side of the argument you find yourself on..

For what it's worth, I've had a Miura 50 for five years and have never had to repair it. Not that it matters because they're not available anymore. The OP should buy what best fits his needs, be it cheap or not. Personally I'd rather save and buy higher quality that will last and won't leave me hanging.

Ray Pinpillage wrote: Is it me trying to justify something? Frankly I don't care what you think about me. I was simply pointing out the other side of the coin. Your statements are contradictory but clearly price is a larger factor to you. You've posted pictures of your Arcteryx "collection" on various forums in the past so maybe your opinion just depends on which side of the argument you find yourself on.. For what it's worth, I've had a Miura 50 for five years and have never had to repair it.

why hi there ray !!!

youre the one yakking on and on about how MH packs need replacing in "3 years" while bragging about yr miura

now im not saying miuras are bad packs by any means ... but neither are MH ones

how was yr roadside "cragging" by the way ...

We gave this gumby crag a quick go while u were typing away furiously

Typical squamish roadside crag

;)

bearbreeder wrote: why hi there ray !!! youre the one yakking on and on about how MH packs need replacing in "3 years" while bragging about yr miura now im not saying miuras are bad packs by any means ... but neither are MH ones how was yr roadside "cragging" by the way ... ;)

I'm in Montana this week, no roadside cragging. it's smokey unfortunately.

bearbreeder wrote: We gave this gumby crag a quick go while u were typing away furiously ;)

No really.. keep posting pics like that and I'm coming to visit.

Max Forbes wrote:Mammut neon gear 45. Sweet bag.

+1. Love this bag! Easily fits : 60m rope, 18 draws, slings, 2 pairs of shoes, water, food.

The reverse brain is genius!

Daryl Allan wrote: No really.. keep posting pics like that and I'm coming to visit.

another bit of cragging we did recently ... a 5 min approach from the parking lot ... we didnt bring no crag packs =P

sunset strip, 10d, 12p, squamish chief

many folks who have never been up here dont realize how much "cragging" we have up in squamish ... the fake stuff of course, not the real crags u yankees got down south where a REAL pack is needed

to cool warm up or cool down from climbing many of us run up or down a moderate 3-6+ pitch "crag" more or less daily ... the braver and stronger of them "squishies" just simul or solo it

;)

Jake Jones wrote:There's no right answer. People like different bags for different reasons. Convenience, comfort, durability, some like bags that can be hauled, and some, unfortunately just like to be seen wearing something expensive. If it works for you, then use it.

This was the first post to this thread .

Something's fishy if it's squishy,
What no love for Metolious Crag bag or the worlds only life time sak
The atom smasher by Fish products ?
Any of the half size haul bags do a great job, and using stuff sacks to prolong pack life is
The way to go ! Thanks to the Golden one! rGold.
Before I posted I looked and the choices seem endless.
Jake Jones, from the central south east where craggin' is king, said it best this question.
Has no right answer.. . .

Coming from an owner of a Miura, just buy a Cold Cold Work Ozone or Valdez.

Coming from the owner of a Miura 50 (for which I searched for greater than a year to find in my size) as well as numerous other packs, don't get a CCW pack if you only want to go cragging. They are excellent packs, but you would be better served with a Trango crag pack, or Metolius, or one of the newer BD crag packs like the creek 50, etc, which are less expensive and better featured for cragging only. For alpine climbing, CCW is excellent.

If anyone has one to sell, or happens to have any leads on one for me I'd really appreciate it. Looking to buy an old style Muira 50 short. Any color is fine with me. Thanks alot everyone.

Ronbo wrote:If anyone has one to sell, or happens to have any leads on one for me I'd really appreciate it. Looking to buy an old style Muira 50 short. Any color is fine with me. Thanks alot everyone.

HAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!

does anyone have an opinion on the patagonia cragsmith?

CVRIV wrote:I am new to cragging and I'm looking to buy a pack as I accumulate gear. I did some looking around on the internet for crag packs and I'm wondering if there is anything about these crag packs that I, being a noob, might not know about? Reason I ask is because I have a Condor 3 Day Assault Bag and love it to death. I actually use it for school. It's big, durable, and comfortable. I don't see why I couldnt use it for craggin purposes. But being a noob, what do I know? I noticed a lot of the crag packs have a hood? Are these packs waterproof? I don't get it. The Condor bag is about 85 dollars where the crag bags can get pretty expensive. Is anyone familiar with the Condor 3 day bag? Does anyone use anything other than crag packs? Thanks

Climbing friend,

May I be so bold as to suggest you are needing to slay a wild animal with your bare hands, such as black bear or wolverine, clean it and eat the meat for bold power flash, cure the skin in the sun, and then fashion yourself a large sack to carry your gear over your hopefully well-muscled shoulder?

I got a Mammut Neon 45 and used it a few times before I decided it was just a little too small for rope, full double rack, helmet, 2 pairs of shoes, and my kitchen sink. I got the Trango Crag pack which fit the kitchen sink, and I've been in love ever since. It is an endless chasm into which gear is thrown and retrieved with no need for organizing. Perfect for cragging.

On a side note my Mammut Neon 45 is now for sale. PM me if interested.

IF you also climb ice - I would go for the North Face Ice Project. I used it last winter, and have continued to use it through the rock season. The suitcase open is great and you can get everything inside the pack. I can comfortably fit my rack, rope, harness and helmet in there with room to spare for food and water.

Aleks Zebastian wrote: Climbing friend, May I be so bold as to suggest you are needing to slay a wild animal with your bare hands, such as black bear or wolverine, clean it and eat the meat for bold power flash, cure the skin in the sun, and then fashion yourself a large sack to carry your gear over your hopefully well-muscled shoulder?

My kind of bag;)

I'd have to throw in a vote for Cold Cold World. I've had the smaller pack, the valdez, since I bought it at Rock & Snow in New Paltz in 1997. It's been everywhere and doubles as my crag pack as well as day trips ice climbing. Still going strong!

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