If You Could Climb All Year, Where Would You Go?

ViperScale wrote:RRG pizza > NRG pizza

while i love the post-climbing convenience of sitting out back of miguel's with a cooler of beer while i wait for my pizza, pies and pints has better pizza

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Tom Stryker wrote:Right here....North Conway. Wait... I should ask if you prefer heat or ice climbing?

Yup. New hampshire, all year round.

Much as I love the Northeast, I gotta say you guys drank the koolaid.

Toss the dacks, gunks, cannon and Rumney in with Conway and you got a great fall in all disciplines.

Ice climbing? Sounds like wet aid to me. ;)

Colin Brochard wrote:too wet at the creek?

Could be windy as f... sometimes wet.

The thought of spending 4 months in JTree fills me with horror!

Jim Titt wrote:The thought of spending 4 months in JTree fills me with horror!

Yeah....that place sucks

I climb in Colorado year round.

I climb in Oregon year-round, that doesn't mean it's good. :)

I would start my trip in mid Feb.

First 10 weeks at the Red to get ready for the year.

May-August in Colorado and Wyoming, starting with little stuff and as the snow melts and season improves, move to almost exclusively alpine routes. Winds and RMNP mostly.

Sept - Thanksgiving, Moab area, some IC but for my tastes, towers and sandy splitters that aren't in a bloom guidebook.

December-March. Thailand or Portrero or get a job. I'm not going to spend the winter forcing myself to climb cold or short or wet bullshit in the US. Seriously, if I couldn't go international, I'd go back to work.

spring- Wasatch
Summer- Wyoming
Fall- Indian Creek, city of rocks
Winter- ouray, shelf road

Greg Petliski wrote: How come? Theres no touristy crap once you get inside the park. The rangers are very chill, theres a wal-mart 5 miles from the entrance for us dirtbags, and theres enough climbing to not need a car once you've gotten to the campground. Its paradise.

If you think it´s paradise you won´t understand why plenty of people don´t.

I'd go to Norway any day f the year but i guess I'm just a dovre troll.

Greg Petliski wrote: Id like to try to understand lol. Really I thought I was being trolled, but are there people who really dont jam on the place? Like, a significant amount of people, cuz Im sure by the odds of it theres folks who hate Yosemite.

JTree wouold be a magical place if it weren't for the crowds.
Even so, out of 5,000 routes, only about 20 are truly great. Even these are scattered widely on single pitch crags.
About as much a climbing mecca as Stoney Point.

Greg Petliski wrote: Only 20? You sound like the kind of guy who would go to the Playboy Mansion and only find one of the girls attractive. I bet Yosemite only has a few worthy routes too huh? And what crowds does J Tree have that lots of major climbing centers dont have? Besides, M-F its pretty quiet, only on the weekends do all the jabronis come out.

Not everyone likes grainy run out slabs or abrasive painful cracks.

The fact that other areas also suffer from crowds doesn't make JTree any more attractive.

You asked why some people don't like climbing at JTree. That's why I don't. Why do you care what I like? And what has the Valley got to do with it?

Greg Petliski wrote: I dont care what you like, Im merely pointing out flaws in your argument. The reasons you are listing could be applied to virtually any world class climbing area so I dont see why its specific to a place like J Tree. Not everything there is coarse and grainy, in fact, the popular routes have been smoothed a bit over time, and theres patina everywhere.

JTree is a nice local area, but far from world class.

I like climbing areas that have a variety of disciplines, so I don't know if I can delineate between trad, sport, or bouldering. I'm admittedly leaving out many of my favorite areas (like RMNP, Turkey Rocks, J Tree, and the Red), but a year at these four would be great!

Summer: High Sierra
Fall: The Valley
Winter: Chatty
Spring: The New

...top that, bitches.

Greg Petliski wrote: Well thats just like your opinion man. The Mountaineers says "This is truly a world-class climbing destination." I bet you're right and they're wrong though. mountaineers.org/explore/ro… At the end of the day, i dont really care, in fact Im all for you people hating on it, because that just means I wont have to bump into you there!

The Mountaineers, probably the pre-eminent authorities on quality in rock climbing areas.

But what do the Boy Scouts say? They're the real experts.

Greg Petliski wrote: Id like to try to understand lol. Really I thought I was being trolled, but are there people who really dont jam on the place? Like, a significant amount of people, cuz Im sure by the odds of it theres folks who hate Yosemite.

Well as your asking:-
Culturally the surrounding area is a dump.
You have to pay to get in.
The Joshua Trees are better elsewhere.
The sport climbing is poor quality (a commom problem with many granite areas).
The popular routes are often crowded (and polished out). The unpopular routes are rightly unpopular and most everything is badly bolted by sport climbing standards.

Compared to many sport climbing destinations in Europe and elsewhere JTree is not world class (I´ve climbed in over 30 countries) and have driven past JTree without stopping 5 times now on my way to better places like Cochise.

On the upside it´s scenically a real nice place:-)

Jim Titt wrote: Well as your asking:- Culturally the surrounding area is a dump. You have to pay to get in. The Joshua Trees are better elsewhere. The sport climbing is poor quality (a commom problem with many granite areas). The popular routes are often crowded (and polished out). The unpopular routes are rightly unpopular and most everything is badly bolted by sport climbing standards. Compared to many sport climbing destinations in Europe and elsewhere JTree is not world class (I´ve climbed in over 30 countries) and have driven past JTree without stopping 5 times now on my way to better places like Cochise. On the upside it´s scenically a real nice place:-)

Have you been to Norway. Now that is world class.