Vandalism Durango, Turtle Lake
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That's a bummer they couldn't make a match.... |
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Sir chuffs alot wrote: someone from the East Coast doesn't understand something and instead of just admitting they don't understand something that attempt to use politically correct bullshit from the East Coast to steer the conversation in the way he feels fit.For the record, there's a lot that I don't understand. But know mean-spirited mocking when I see it. Sir chuffs alot wrote: there have been several local climbing areas closed over the past 10 years because of native American trash.Ouch. I think the point's been made, and I don't want to fan the flames, so I'll sign out. Good luck, everyone, with the clean-up. It sucks to lose a day of climbing to such efforts. |
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So supposedly the plate number I supplied was partial? Pretty sure I got the whole plate. Anyway I will not be able to make it tomorrow but Steven if you PM me I can throw a few bucks at you to help with supplies, or anyone else who is going to clean up tomorrow. |
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I'll be there in the morning too. Sent out a text to some of the local youth as well. Everyone should see how important this is. We can team up and get these boulders looking like new everyone. |
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Just bought $114 worth of supplies. If anybody has any scrub brushes, please bring since I only have 4. I appreciate everyone's help! |
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I spoke with FLC campus PD and they said w/o a full plate # or parking permit # there was nothing they could do. I also spoke with a friend from the Herald, so he may do a piece tomorrow while we're cleaning. I have a small group coming out tomorrow as well to clean, see ya'll around 10am! |
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The kids' nationality or a presumed nationality should have never been brought up. All I know is casinos are freaking awesome! |
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Bear Grillis wrote:The kids' nationality or a presumed nationality should have never been brought up. All I know is casinos are freaking awesome!Totally, criminals nationality should never be brought up, unless you are interested in catching them. |
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Thank you so much to everyone who showed up. We had a group of about 10. The Durango climbing community never ceases to amaze me. |
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Really great meeting a bunch of new, awesome, durangoans. I'll get some pics up when I get them off my camera! |
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I am sorry to here of the vandalism. It is great that the climbers of Durango are taking fast action to such an awesome area. I wish I was around to help, hope that the painting stops! |
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OKAY! So Chris and the AAC sent us some Elephant snot! Let's say we meet back at Turtle Lake on tomorrow morning (may 2nd) around 10 or so. Bring pads and climbing stuff too so we can do some bouldering while this snot settles in for like 45 minutes. |
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Too bad about the paint... |
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HAHAHA! John, I still tell that story. |
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Holy Shit-- I'd forgotten about that!! That was some epic shit! |
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It got hit again, although this time not as bad. It's gotta be the same guys, because the same symbols are on the street sign. I'm thinking about investing in a trail camera since these dicks are hitting the same boulders, but it could be a while before they go after it again. I'll be out of town this weekend, but there might be a few folks going out Saturday to scrub. |
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Kalil Oldham wrote: I think these comments are intended to be funny. To me they read like mean-spirited mocking, not toward these four individuals who trashed your climbing area, but toward an entire cultural group. I get that you're insulted and offended by these acts, but I don't see what's gained by the snarky invoking of cultural stereotypes. Sorry to hear about your boulders; good luck cleaning off that paint.Whoa I just read the entire thread my previous post inspired. I didn't mean to invoke any negative cultural stereotype, but from starting out climbing in the Red River Gorge a few portions were closed by the US/KY/local govn't as an archeological site because Native Americans had left artwork and other pieces deemed to have value by Americans. Since the OP stated the artwork producers were Native American, I was just commenting that perhaps IF it was more Native American seeming, and not spray paint of Homer simpson then perhaps no one would mind or could even deem this to have archeological importance. Ironically the other person being attacked for not being PC is also one of the people cleaning up the damage. |
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bdboulder wrote:something tells me the taggers aren't climbers or run in climbing circles... but who knows?They usually never are. We've had several out-of-this-world caliber skateparks in New Jersey closed due to vandalism, and at least in the case of one of those parks, my local park, we know for sure it wasnt skaters doing the graffiti. I know theres exceptions, like the guy from the thread about the flatiron "summit register" but most people who climb/skate/surf whatever respect the playground that they derive so much joy from. Ana Tine wrote:I was just commenting that perhaps IF it was more Native American seeming, and not spray paint of Homer simpson then perhaps no one would mind or could even deem this to have archeological importance.Thats a dangerous road to go down. What constitutes archeological importance or cultural significance? The Simpsons is the longest running animated show ever. Thats culturally significant I would say, but I sure dont want Homer Simpson showing up in the backcountry. I think the time where humans can leave art behind in nature is long gone, because there are just too many of us. Besides, would cave paintings be as fascinating to us as they are if they were as common today as cheeseburger wrappers will be to future scientists studying our culture? I find rarity makes things more interesting. |