Is there a standard term for putting your leg behind the rope?
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Dude, watch out your about to bust your head. You can use dudette I guess:) |
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Jon H wrote: Careful, you're letting the rest of us know how old you are. I seem to recall that phrase was coined by Angry on RC.noob.I'm pretty sure it was John Long AKA Largo at Supertopo |
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There's a few problems language barrier no helmet and a leader that is no aware of her rope ,a slip there could be. A real bad day. |
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Holy Cow, I get back from a 4-day climbing trip and find MP has its leg behind the rope! Hamilton Kibbe wrote:I think the standard term is anything that both the leader and belayer understand to mean "the rope is behind your leg". This seems (to me) the right answer, although I'm sure that calling it "backstepping" is wrong regardless if two gymby's understand each other. Hamilton Kibbe wrote: "watch your leg" or "watch the rope" pretty self explanatory, even if the leader has no idea what you're talking about...I agree, except the two gals in question don't understand why having the rope behind the leg is a problem (Fiona, thanks for that video). For example, I just received email from the woman in the photo where she explained to me that there was no problem because she didn't feel she would fall there!!!!! I disabused her of that notion. |
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I yell entrapment... |
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Love it! Entrapment. Haha |
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sometimes I just like livin on the edge and I climb with the rope wrapped around my ankle so that if I fall I will pay the price of being a sucky climber. I do demand a soft catch though. |
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csproul wrote: You were taught wrong. A backstep is climbing technique. Any time you step through such that your hip is facing the rock, usually with the outside of your foot against the rock, that is a backstep. climbingtechniques.org/inte…Chapeau! |
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The AMGA CWI (American Mountain Guide Assoc, Climbing Wall Instructor) manual for teaching lead-climbing refers to this mistake as "leg behind the rope". calling it "backstepping would be dangerous as it could cause confusion.
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Christian RodaoBack wrote: "Quitate la pierna de enfrente de la cuerda ó te vas a chingar toda la madre, pendeja!" that should work nicely Lmaoooo |
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After climbing gyms took the initiative to further confuse an entire generation of confused as to what rock climbing is climbers using the term “backstep” rather than “move your fkn foot from behind the rope”, I believe the corrected term is “tangle toe”. |
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Danger-footing |
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Dan Alroy wrote: Wasn't this sorted out 8 years ago when it was posted? |
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Dan Alroy wrote: Shouldn't it be the other way around - you don't want the rope behind the leg? |
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Definitely not back stepping Back slapping perhaps |
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When I open long threads started in 2015 i think: "oh the discussion has been going on and off for a couple years". Then I realize 2015 wasn't two years ago. Yeah I just tell my partner to watch the rope behind their leg. Often times it's not immediately corrected because it's a hard/scary move, which is exactly when it shouldn't be behind the leg. Most of the time they are too focused to hear commands from the ground, pull thru the hard section then I double down and have them correct it. On very easy terrain I don't worry too much about it, but I try to get the rope running correctly as soon as it's convenient. |
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Let's collectively coin a new term. I propose "Ropadope" |
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Sorry to have to squirt a stinky drop of reality into the pool of 'historical rock climbing jargon' ... but gyms are now calling this leg-behind-the-rope thing "backstepping." You can hate it all you want, but a sh*t ton of new climbers are learning it this way, i.e. "Watch your backstep!" The flagging move that you truebloods know as "backstepping" is, in the gyms, now being called "back flagging" (flagging leg behind other) or "inside flagging" (flagging leg steps inside and through other). But I'm not going to die on this hill. I'll just top rope it. |
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Same kooks that think freeclimbing is free soloing. Then you’ve got “feminists” who think FFA means first female ascent And the masses that think traditional climbs are trad climbs and they don’t have bolt protection. Gyms have dumbed down “climbing’s” participants to an average American level. Fortunately, most plastic jockeys are afraid to go rock climbing |
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Eric Metzgar wrote: Good thing there’s people like me and the Warbler to set ‘em straight! |