BD micro OFFSETS vs DMM brass OFFSETS?

Two questions:

1- Size wise, how close are BD offset micros #5 and 6 to DMM Brass #5 and 6?

2- I know DMM brass is softer than BD copper/steel, but how do they compare in terms of actual usability?

Unless BD changed their shape, DMM HB brass offsets handdown.
The double taper is great in small cracks and pin scars.

Durability wise, probably the same, I've retired very few micro nuts and the reasons have been badly kinked wire (fall or weighing it) or dropping one...

For the vast majority of placements, BD stoppers work just fine. But for tricky placements DMM's rule.

DMM peanuts are small offset nuts with a loop of cable instead of being brazed directly to the brass, which makes them more durable. They are great nuts, as are the full size DMM offsets.

Thanks for the more general input, but I am asking specifically about BD OFFSET MICRO STOPPERS (not the regular micros) VS HB/DMM BRASS offsets.

I need to fill in a gap, ideally DMM brass offset sizes 5 and 6. Just want to know how comparable the BDs are. Can get the BDs for half the cost of the DMM.

I have on my rack:
-standard BD stoppers
-HB aluminum offsets
-set of Peanuts
-HB brass offsets to size 4,
-regular BD micros(and BTW, I have no problem with the copper steel aspect of the BD micros vs brass RPs)

I have never had my hands on the BD offsets.

Buy them both, they compliment each other.

Forget the two smallest sizes unless you're aid climbing.

Quit geeking out over the minutia and go climbing. Your nut-rack is fine.

Mal

Malcolm Daly wrote:Buy them both, they compliment each other. Forget the two smallest sizes unless you're aid climbing. Quit geeking out over the minutia and go climbing. Your nut-rack is fine. Mal

LOL!

- When it comes to filling in gaps in the stopper range, I just need two stoppers. Don't want to end up with more that I don't need or use! And at $20+ a pop for DMM.s, for me that's too much $$ to buy excess.

-I quite enjoy geeking out over gear minutiae. Why should I quit?

-I am climbing so much these days that I am not physically recovering enough between climbing days.

-I am indeed quite generally happy with my nut rack!

-Agree about the smallest sizes and don't carry them

Cheers,

Of u already have the dmm normal offsets, or WC/DMM nuts get the dmm brass offsets ... The sizing complements them well

The brass will last just fine on the DMM, the wire will likely bend then break from all the flexing before the brass deforms to being unusable

;)

OK, I think the subjective aspect is taken care of.

So dimensionally, let's try this method: Can anyone post a pic of DMM brass offsets #5 and 6 next to BD OFFSET micros #5 and 6 for a direct dimensional comparison?

Here are stock pics of both, but can we see them in the same photo right next to each other?

Thanks

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rocknice2 wrote:http://www.zionadventures.com/ZBlog/gear-reviews/gear-review-black-diamond-offset-micro-stopper/

That's what I am looking for! Great help, thanks.

I would definitely consider the P nuts. They are a bit less offset. Makes them a little more usable for conventional placement. 4 & 5 are similar to 5 and 6 HB/DMM offset

Tim Fisher wrote:I would definitely consider the P nuts. They are a bit less offset. Makes them a little more usable for conventional placement. 4 & 5 are similar to 5 and 6 HB/DMM offset

yeah, mountainhick seems to like the set of Peanuts they own :)

I got 3-6 DMM brass, also hoping the 6 would fill the "gap" between the #5 Peenut and the #7 Alloy Offset. Turns out the brass 6 is pretty much the exact same size as the #5 Peenut, although it does have an additional taper. So basically, there's no gap where you think you have one. Still glad I got them, though.