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Eli Buzzell · · noco · Joined Nov 2010 · Points: 5,507

I don't disagree, I'm merely saying that getting scientific data for this is a ridiculous notion. I do appreciate the feedback. I stated that it is subjective when I explained how I did it because I wasn't about to lie to anyone. I don't think there is a right or wrong way to go about this, and I think that my data or "pseudo-data" is important because all of those things are factors in what effects crowding. As you might expect, there are no surprises on this map for a lot of people because these things are relatively easy to rationalize when you're looking at mountain project or the guidebook, and on top of that everyone gets news by word of mouth that "rarely do people go to the Northwest Crags.
Last Sunday between all the far west crags, there were only two parties (mine included), but when I went down to the Meadows there were only three climbs open. Hilariously enough, on our way out both parties stopped at Boundary Rock, there were about 10 people there with only two bolted routes. Had you taken the data at that time Boundary Rock would have looked like a happening spot! Fortunately I took my observations from a broader span of time than that. Pardon my cynicism in my last post, I just feel that if I've stated that it is a subjective map repeatedly it is pointless to beat it to death unless you have a better solution or method of doing it.

I could definitely ramble on about this crap for hours, being a damn climber and all. All in all I really liked the process of creating the map, and I felt that the collecting information behind it was justifiable. It was a journey that brought me to a lot of new places and in the process I found a good amount of rock to scrub and climb (aren't first ascents what we're all really after anyway? ;]). I like making maps and climbing, if I had recorded a soundtrack for the map it would have been a personal trifecta. I hope that at least one person can use it to their advantage; whether they're new to the area, or just ready to start exploring the lesser known destinations. I consider it a success to have just brought it to the light of day.

Eli Buzzell · · noco · Joined Nov 2010 · Points: 5,507
caesar.salad wrote:To do this entirely objectively would require thousands of man hours and would most likely not be significantly different from the present result. While Eli's study would most likely not stand up to the scientific scrutiny required by the famed journals, "Nature" or "Science", his method is valid (evidenced by the fact that the data generally agree with what we all see at Rumney; in fact, that is actually the most important point SUPPORTING his method). Whether it is reliable is harder to determine given that the study has not been repeated.
Thanks brotha
Jeffrey LeCours · · New Hampshire · Joined Apr 2008 · Points: 1,381

I'm just annoyed that people might start crowding me up in the NW now :) I found it interesting that you included Haunted House and the burned down hillside west of Venus... but you didn't include The Wonderland. In fact, with your adventureneering lately, I'm surprised you have explored that area much yet - I think you'd really enjoy it. My only warning is that I did almost send an oven size boulder over the top of Triple Corners --scary.

Eli Buzzell · · noco · Joined Nov 2010 · Points: 5,507
Jeffrey.LeCours wrote:I'm just annoyed that people might start crowding me up in the NW now :) I found it interesting that you included Haunted House and the burned down hillside west of Venus... but you didn't include The Wonderland. In fact, with your adventureneering lately, I'm surprised you have explored that area much yet - I think you'd really enjoy it. My only warning is that I did almost send an oven size boulder over the top of Triple Corners --scary.
I've been up to the Monolith and Wonderland, but done no climbing up there yet. I didn't include it because similar to Hohe Hinerland, Hail Vader, and some other crags (like the utopia ledges) they're a combo of not on most people's radar, and directly above other crags (making the dots not show up on the map anyway). I almost didn't throw Haunted House on there but I thought I needed an example of the absolute smallest shittiest crag at Rumney.
M Sprague · · New England · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 5,090

For obscure, there is the little crag to the right (east) of the Buffalo Pit. I don't even know of a name for it or the name of the bolted route there. There is also the 5.9 crag. It is kind of up hill from the Bakery.

Eli Buzzell · · noco · Joined Nov 2010 · Points: 5,507
M Sprague wrote:For obscure, there is the little crag to the right (east) of the Buffalo Pit. I don't even know of a name for it or the name of the bolted route there. There is also the 5.9 crag. It is kind of up hill from the Bakery.
I never found anything at the 5.9 crag, but the Infinity wall shows some promise for development. If only the Clam Post would let me park there.
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