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Cob Rock Tyrolean Down

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Xam · · Boulder, Co · Joined Dec 2011 · Points: 76

The cob rock tyrolean appears to have been taken down. Anyone have any info on why? Anyone have plans to replace it? Thanks for any info!

Rich Farnham · · Nederland, CO · Joined Aug 2002 · Points: 297

It was cut down last fall. No one knows by who, or why. There was no reason to replace it before winter and have the ropes out there aging when the creek was low.

I've been hoping to get out and string a new one before the reservoir spills over the dam (making it much harder to get to the other side), but have been too busy for the last few weeks to do it. I probably won't be able to get out there for another few weeks at least. If others want to do it before then, I've got a bit of static rope (that has been donated by others for tyrols) that I can provide. Otherwise I'll get to it in a few weeks.

The Bell Buttress tyrol is down as well. I think the other main tyrols are currently in. Post to the thread if you know otherwise...

Mark E Dixon · · Possunt, nec posse videntur · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 974
Rich Farnham wrote: The Bell Buttress tyrol is down as well. I think the other main tyrols are currently in. Post to the thread if you know otherwise...
There's a tyrol just at the downstream end of Bell, but it looked more exciting than the Primo tyrol- not your work Rich, I'll bet.
Jeremy Riesberg · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 5

Tonnere Tower tyrol has its core showing on one of the lines.

Rich Farnham · · Nederland, CO · Joined Aug 2002 · Points: 297

Mark - are you talking about that ratty one that goes over to the Aquarium Wall? The typical location for the Bell Buttress tyrol didn't have a line when I last drove by a few days ago. I'd like to fix up that Aquarium Wall line sometime, but it's lower priority.

Jeremy - thanks for the heads up.

Mark E Dixon · · Possunt, nec posse videntur · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 974
Rich Farnham wrote:Mark - are you talking about that ratty one that goes over to the Aquarium Wall? The typical location for the Bell Buttress tyrol didn't have a line when I last drove by a few days ago. I'd like to fix up that Aquarium Wall line sometime, but it's lower priority.
Yes, that's the one. I was at the Bowling Alley, so couldn't see the standard Bell tyrol upstream.

It did look like there might still be a log crossing, but that won't help till summer time and could get washed away in the spring rise.
Tom-onator · · trollfreesociety · Joined Feb 2010 · Points: 790

Why not install 3/8" Galvanized Aircraft Cable at these Tyrols for a longer term safer alternative?

Rich Farnham · · Nederland, CO · Joined Aug 2002 · Points: 297
Tom-onator wrote:Why not install 3/8" Galvanized Aircraft Cable at these Tyrols for a longer term safer alternative?
Because I don't think that would really deter whoever it is that takes them down. It would just be more expensive (and a PITA) every time they did.
Tom-onator · · trollfreesociety · Joined Feb 2010 · Points: 790
Jeremy Riesberg wrote:Tonnere Tower tyrol has its core showing on one of the lines.
Mayhaps the person taking the ropes down is tired of seeing bleached tat that is obviously unsafe for use and thinks they are doing service to the public.

Rich Farnham wrote:Because I don't think that would really deter whoever it is that takes them down. It would just be more expensive (and a PITA) every time they did.
Has this ever been tried?
With this defeatist attitude they win.
At around 77 cents per foot for quality zip line cable 200' of cable can be purchased for around $160.00.

Attaching a small sign indicating the importance of the Tyrol for climber's safety might deter future thefts.

Another sign indicating ass whoopings and public shame will be subjected to this deviant might work also.

Kickstarter opportunity for maintaining and replacing these cables anyone?
Mike McHugh · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2013 · Points: 420
Tom-onator wrote: Mayhaps the person taking the ropes down is tired of seeing bleached tat that is obviously unsafe for use and thinks they are doing service to the public. Has this ever been tried? With this defeatist attitude they win. At around 77 cents per foot for quality zip line cable 200' of cable can be purchased for around $160.00. Attaching a small sign indicating the importance of the Tyrol for climber's safety might deter future thefts. Another sign indicating ass whoopings and public shame will be subjected to this deviant might work also. Kickstarter opportunity for maintaining and replacing these cables anyone?
If you want to force the issues with the land owners/managers, that could do it very effectively. BCC and others have worked tirelessly to build relations with the landholders in Boulder Canyon - I hope you'll consult them before taking unilateral action that could damage those relations.
Tony B · · Around Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 24,665

It is possible that fishermen take the lines down as well. Honestly, I am not sure.

Tom-onator · · trollfreesociety · Joined Feb 2010 · Points: 790

Mike, honestly I know nothing of the politics at stake here and am not suggesting unilateral anarchism.
Is this not a public safety issue?
Are these Tyrols being taken down because they are illegal in the eyes of the owners/managers?
I am merely suggesting that a more permanent solution (cables vs used ropes) should be implemented in a high user group location such as BC.

-Awesome dry stack btw!

Mike McHugh · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2013 · Points: 420

Okay, I'll fess up. Total straw man argument there. Sorry - I felt like a dork trying it.

I sure don't think anybody in the agencies that manage Boulder Canyon has an ounce of time to mess with the current tyroleans.

The combo of more permanent equipment, signage, and a kickstarter might get a reaction from a land manager.

I think there are good resources for working in Boulder canyon, go cautiously and collaboratively.

Altered Ego · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2008 · Points: 0

Tom-ophobe,

Anarchism is a highly organized, democratic approach to decision making. There is no such thing as unilateral anarchism.

Tony B · · Around Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 24,665
Long Duk Dong wrote: Anarchism is a highly organized, democratic approach to decision making. There is no such thing as unilateral anarchism.
No it isn't, and there is nothing you can do to make me agree.
Rich Farnham · · Nederland, CO · Joined Aug 2002 · Points: 297
Tony B wrote:It is possible that fishermen take the lines down as well. Honestly, I am not sure.
I recently had the idea of installing a wildlife trail camera to see if we could figure out who's taking them down. The cameras are camouflaged, and even work in the dark. The problem is, they're motion activated. So you'd get a ton of pictures of everyone that crosses the tyrol.

I'm not even trying to "catch" who ever is doing this, so much as understanding why. Perhaps being able to have a conversation with the person who's removing them might make this work better. I'd be willing to remove them every year once the creek was low, if that would keep from having to invest in new ropes and hardware every few years.
Tony B · · Around Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 24,665

Sounds reasonable.
Not sure you'd be able to tell who it was or why they were doing it unless they were in a dry suit or waders...

Scott McMahon · · Boulder, CO · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,425

who took down the hand line at the sport park, who smashed the tree stand at the cascade crag?

I say we get a river boat!!

Boulder creek patrol

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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