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Edelweiss Rope shipped with "CORESHOT"

Dan 60D5H411 · · Colorado Springs, CO · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 3,239

Panda, a coreshot is not like a moneyshot. It has little to do with the visibility of the core. A coreshot is when a rope has had a portion of the core strands cut and the integrity of the rope is compromised.

Georgehh · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2015 · Points: 0

So much hilarious on this thread

rocknice2 · · Montreal, QC · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 3,847
Fallindemon wrote:Georgehh I'm just a simple climber where I get my qualifications to judge rope is when I question it's ability to function for the purpose it is designed for for my own personal safety if I buy a new product and I can see the core basic thought would be that it is unsafe to climb on it feel free to if you like but my butt wouldn't be swinging from it you sound like a sales rep
A few of these .... a couple of these ,, and if you're feeling it a ! would go a long way.
I do give you props for not referring to yourself as 'i'.
Nkane 1 · · East Bay, CA · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 140

My lovely girlfriend got this exact rope, and noticed the exact same feature. Within ~20 pitches it had gotten extremely fuzzy, with a couple giant fuzzes around the gaps in the sheath. So she took it back to REI. Thanks, REI!

So there you go.

slim · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2004 · Points: 1,103

the photo isn't as bad as i expected, but i definitely wouldn't be too thrilled about shelling out some coin and getting a rope like this. i have had many bi-pattern ropes. pretty much all of them are a little rough at the transition, but i haven't seen a new one in which the core was visible (like shown).

Panda Express · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2012 · Points: 30

Wow. It turns out there's a surprisingly number of people with the exact same problems.

Hopefully this becomes more well known and Edelweiss will get its act together. The rope itself otherwise is perfect for me and handles perfectly, glides like a dream.

Anyone have any other suggestions for a similar rope?

Gunkiemike · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 3,492
Panda Express wrote: This is one of the fanciest and more expensive ropes available.
But you didn't pay full price for it, did you?
Adam B · · CO · Joined Sep 2006 · Points: 105

Return it to the retailer, dont buy edelweiss. I have had 2 edelweiss ropes arrive like this, had the core actually coming out of the sheath at the weave change on one, and observed this in ropes on the rack at REI. The first rope arrived 3 years ago and most recently I noticed what you have going on with a rope I bought last fall from edelweiss. The one from last Fall looks more like the OP's and does have a thread snag right where the bipattern finishes. Could be coincidence. Either way it is a returnable issue.

There ropes are relatively cheap but not really worth the quality control in my opinion. Good luck!

mattm · · TX · Joined Jun 2006 · Points: 1,885

I've seen this issue with other brands as well but not quite as bad as the ones in this thread.

The easy answer is don't buy BiColor Ropes. I once was a fan but realized over time that the pattern change is much harder to spot than a good middle mark and cost more to boot.

Even more problems come up with the darker colored BiColors because as the rope gets dirty, the pattern change gets REALLY hard to spot, especially in fading light conditions when you're likely rapping.

I have 3 Edelweiss ropes right now, none of which are bicolor and they've been great so far. The single pick sheath is great and hard to find across so many diameter options.

I just use the Beal Rope Ink to mark my rope as needed. Provides some tactile feedback too.

Moritz B. · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2013 · Points: 185

I would return the rope. The way it looks is unacceptable. It will probably also be noticeable when it runs through your belay device. Generally speaking, I tend towards rope manufacturers that don´t use splicing when making their ropes. It might only be an optical imperfection but it remains sub par.

Moritz B. · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2013 · Points: 185

@mattm
I also don´t use bicolor ropes anymore. Once you cut them, the middle mark shifts and the bicolor is not true anymore.
Yet it has to be said, that there is also high quality processes like Mammut´s Duodess or Edelrid´s Colortech, where the result clearly doesn´t look like in the picture.

Chris Nischan · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2011 · Points: 0

Not a core shot, no damage to the core, imperfection in the sheath. Fine to climb on. I personally wouldn't be stoked on being able to see the core, but the actual amount thats exposed is extremely small.

P.S. Never had an issue with Bicolor/pattern ropes from Sterling

20 kN · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2009 · Points: 1,346
Moritz B. wrote:II tend towards rope manufacturers that don´t use splicing when making their ropes. .
How are you going to make a bi-pattern without an airsplice?
Mark Paulson · · Raleigh, NC · Joined Sep 2010 · Points: 141

Well, the center of the rope probably sees the least amount of wear of any section of the rope (unless you're doing a lot of toproping over edges). I probably wouldn't worry about it, but it's not my rope/money.

+1--I'm on my third Sterling Bi-Color (2 Velocities and an Ion2) and have loved them all.

Glenn Schuler · · Monument, Co. · Joined Jun 2006 · Points: 1,330
Panda Express wrote: Let me know if you have another definition of coreshot.
Since no one has posted a pic yet, here is a visual aid for the universal definition of "CORESHOT" (emphasized with quotes and capslock).... see the difference?

"CORESHOT"
frankstoneline · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2009 · Points: 30
John Wilder wrote: Edelrid does it with a tiny piece of webbing that takes the place of two of the yarns in the rope. At the half way mark the webbing changes color from black to green. I can't remember if the webbing flips over or if it just changes color at that point. Either way, it means no air splices are necessary and it is also why their bi patterns are cheaper, they don't have to stop the machine. It's a neat trick for sure, the only thing I don't like is that Edelrid only used green and black with it, I wish they would do it with other colors.
It'd be a great trick if it didn't mean you had to climb on a shit edelrid...
You know, a sharpy is a great way to avoid all this worry over bi-patterns and it saves you a fair grip of cash...
WillF · · Sacramento · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 40
csproul wrote:there's nothing wrong with any of the pictured ropes
+1

While I don't like the second rope, where you don't have to squint to see the core, that is far from coreshot....
Matt N · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 415

Maybe I'm more likely to remember b/c I own a similar rope to the one in this thread:
mountainproject.com/v/edelw…

but it seems common with Edelweiss
mountainproject.com/v/edelw…
mountainproject.com/v/rope-…

Mine has not shown any abnormal wear, but its also my least used rope (70m 9.5, saved for routes that need a 70m), and never TR'd on and no falls, I think.

I'm just crossing my fingers I got one of the 'good' ones. Reviews across the web are either "great" or "poor"; i.e. it had an issue quickly, or seemed to be fine.

Gunkiemike · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 3,492

Core shot:

Sharp edge damage

Moritz B. · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2013 · Points: 185

Did the OP yet hear back from Edelweiss after he sent them an email?

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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