To The Person That Chipped Holds On Way Rambo Approach
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I assume you thought you were helping, chipping a dozen footholds into the boulders. You weren't. On the contrary, you vandalized an otherwise beautiful wash. |
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Wow! What a complete load of shit! I've hiked down that wash in a complete downpoar and hadnt felt a need for anything like that! Whomever did that needs to be removed from participating in any outdoor activity (like life...) |
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not cool |
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Those boulders are super dangerous. They really need to be bolted so we can "sport approach" the thing. |
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and the stacked rocks + rebar spikes + incut, eroded trailbed at the super popular spots are completely different, right? |
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A sign of the times - like the plaques at the base of routes. |
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Max Supertramp wrote:and the stacked rocks + rebar spikes + incut, eroded trailbed at the super popular spots are completely different, right?Well yes, they are different. Stacked rocks, rebar spikes are usually put in to help prevent erosion and build a trail to concetrate erosion in a certain area. The eroded trailbed is what happens when lot's of people walk that route. These foot prints do none of the above and were not needed. |
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I'm sorry, I don't understand how a cupped, channelized trailbed will minimize erosion. It seems like encouraging foot traffic to stay on durable surfaces (eg: rock) might be less erosive in the long run. |
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When I think rebar and rocks I think of methods to keep the trail in it's place, like switchbacks for example. It's a way to minimize erosion in that it's in a concentrated area, rather than having several slightly smaller, slightly less eroded trails going the same direction. And yes, they deffinetly have their own problems. |
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Allen Sanderson wrote:A sign of the times - like the plaques at the base of routes.Those plaques have been there for decades, not exactly a new phenomenon. Now chipping approach boulders, that is a new low even for climbers. |
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Derek Lawrence wrote:Wow! What a complete load of shit! I've hiked down that wash in a complete downpoar and hadnt felt a need for anything like that! Whomever did that needs to be removed from participating in any outdoor activity (like life...)Don't you think this might be a bit dramatic, removing someone from participating from outdoor activities such as life for a misguided attempt at improving a trail? These are rocks on a trail people, go save a panda. |
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It's a slippery slope. Next thing you know there's going to be a hand rail and ramp access. Maybe even a tram. Oh the horror. |