To the climber that peed on my girlfriend and me on Yellow Spur....

oops doligo, my bad. honestly, i assumed you were a dude. (so, you know what they say about assumptions, i just made an ass of myself. but not really.) i did quickly check all other user names before commenting though. perhaps i also, aside from assumption, disregarded that particular reply/ comment due to its unrealistic nature. very rarely, even early morning mid-week, is one able to get on a classic, multi-pitch, eldo route and not have someone climbing somewhere above them. directly above them, maybe no, but a couple pitches above, or on a converging route ledge, yes. stuff from above (like rocks, people, gear, a shoe or two, ropes, water bottles, sunglasses, clothing, even half-eaten sammies) are par for the multi-pitch course. however, pee or poo from above? NO EXCUSE. ...ESPECIALLY if it's ONLY 3 to 5 pitches. meow that's my two cents and i'm a sticking to it. i've been climbing in eldo less than a year, have climbed at least a few dozen multi-pitch routes there, mid-week, weekends, early moning, mid-afternoon, evening, even holidays, and have never had trouble holding it till the top-out or till i was back to terra firma. heaven's to betsy, have 'muricans done gotten so bad we no longer have the common decency not to pee on people? oh, and P.S. thanks for having my back there, chickadee.

Bill Kirby wrote: Seriously, good job handling the situation mature like.

I respectfully disagree. Racing up a couple of pitches to demand an apology seems far from mature.

Mature would be laughing at the absurdity of the situation, being grateful it wan't a loose block falling on the both of you and enjoying a great spring day on the rocks.

Yeah man - it could be worse ...

Once, I was bicycling about 20 yards behind another person on a bicycle. Without a glance back, he leaned over to the side and did the farmer-style nose blow. You know, where you plug the nostril that is less clogged and then blow really hard to clear the other nostril?

About a second later, I had the distinct taste of salt in my mouth.

... still, I would have at least yelled down an apology.

You CHOSE to climb under another party, thereby accepting many risks...risk of dropped gear hitting you, risk of being delayed and possibly benighted, risk of rockfall released by the other party, and yes, risk of the golden shower.

Grow up and accept that it was your choice to ride someone else's ass up a route, and choices have consequences. I've been pissed on, more than once, a couple times from people not even on the route I was climbing (the wind does blow, you know)

You're going to be in for a real treat if you ever have kids.

Will S wrote:You're going to be in for a real treat if you ever have kids.

Amen, brother.

Bill Kirby wrote:
Seriously, good job handling the situation mature like.

Mark Dixon wrote:
I respectfully disagree. Racing up a couple of pitches to demand an apology seems far from mature.

Mature would be laughing at the absurdity of the situation, being grateful it wan't a loose block falling on the both of you and enjoying a great spring day on the rocks.

Paul Hutton wrote:
Dude with his girlfriend. I detect show-off. I'm guilty of it, too! I HAVE been getting better about laughing $h!t off.

1. It wasn't a personal offense, up until he didn't apologize (I have my don't give a f*** rebel moments)

2. Choosing to throw anger to correct something is only asking for trouble. There's a psychological advantage to being easy-going with people. Getting people to like you, which increases exponentially when they expect you to spark outrage. At that point, they feel like the a$$hole in y'alls equation, and embarrassed about themselves. If that don't work, they're too proud in an, obviously, indecent situation that they caused, THEN, bust out the big gunz! F*** it!

The way I'd handle that--finish the water, if there's not much left and it's reasonable to do so (survival experts have stated that you're better off taking generous amounts of fluid in, rather than rationing it, like Aaron Ralston), use the bottle! If impossible, shoot the stream off-route at the rock. The stream runs down the wall, maybe a minimal amount of particulate matter floating off into the air. You can't really expect much better than that. I know all about diuretics (I'm a caffeine lover).

So, is it better to be pissed off or pissed on??

Buff Johnson wrote:So, is it better to be pissed off or pissed on??

Depends on the weather

Someone was atop P3 or P4 and couldn't find a place to piss other than down onto P2? I'm not sure what sort of life advice to offer such a person.
I think that they should ask another blind climber, not one of us.

i think this is some funny shit... er funny pist?
Not a discussion that I would have with my family you could say.

Still be glad it wasn't something harder... or squishier.....

Mud Falcon

Does anyone remember the thread here(or ST.com or RC.com) about someone braging that they got a golden shower from some famous climber on the Nose. I couldn't find it.

I mean talk to a non climber about this or carrying your poo for a week and see what kind of response you get.

Could have been worse. I was climbing out in Tahoe over the weekend on a 3 pitch climb, and after pitch one we realized someone was throwing baseball sized rocks over the edge. Nothing like hearing a huge rock fly past your head. Fortunately it only lasted a few minutes and my partner and I were not hit.

Either way you put it, yes it sucks but it is pretty funny. I happen to know the two guys whom are the pissers and they are new to trad climbing. Both solid climbers just have no concept of etiquette coming from single pitch sport climbers.

If you really want the other dude's name send me a message and I'll blow him up. He needs to be embarrassed by this.

Otherwise let's be grateful that we are out climbing as an awesome spring has arrived!

klichy wrote:I happen to know the two guys whom are the pissers and they are new to trad climbing. Both solid climbers just have no concept of etiquette coming from single pitch sport climbers.

I kind of assumed this was the case! No need to rat out your buddy, just make sure he knows there is a time and a place for peeing out into the open air on a multi-pitch route, and Yellow Spur is definitely not the place (unless you're 100% sure no one is beneath you). Also, if he happens to do it again, a simple shout of "sorry! I had no idea you were beneath us!" would go a long way.

We definitely got a good laugh out of it!

the final comment here is one of the nastiest things ive ever read
Pervertical Sanctuary

Pervertical is a really poopular route I would say.

Two of my friends/partners were climbing a 4 pitch route and had left their packs, approach shoes, etc. at the base since they would be rapping off. Somewhere part-way up P3 the call of nature - not pee - made an insistent arrival for Paul who was leading the pitch. He felt he had no choice but to build a quick anchor and drop his pants (bad burrito from the night before maybe?). Anyhow, he let the semi-solid chunks fly. All seemed manageable so they finished the route. When they returned to the ground, Paul discovered he had splattered atop his own approach shoes!

Next time try these....

Happened to me on moonlight. The party was on the ledge above the awkward chimney and we were standing on the rocker block. It is surprising how long it takes to stop raining down on you even after they already stopped from the yelling we did. I never did catch up to them, (wasn't really trying anyway) but I did bootie a few DMM offsets and a cam that I didn't feel to bad about

moturner wrote:the final comment here is one of the nastiest things ive ever read Pervertical Sanctuary

Dear god. My trip up pervertical is going to be filled with fear now, not related to climbing.

Okay.... climbing too.