El Potrero Chico Guidebooks (as of 2012)?
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Can anyone who's been to EPC recently chime in on what the current lastest-and-greatest guidebook is? There's another post from 2008 asking this question, but I'm assuming that there have been updates and possibly new ones published since then. Thanks! |
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Just got back from 2 weeks there - Potrero Ed has a new (17th edition) guidebook out, with over 60 new routes in it "not found in other guide-books". It is the 2012 edition, and is pretty much up-to-date, although it is not on the scale of "The Whole Enchilada". |
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Dane Bass did the comprehensive guide. MP has a link for both here: |
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Tagged for later. Thanks! |
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Climb El Potrero Chico is hot off the press and completely up to date (except for the new 2 pitch route I just finished and some new routes going in next to Access Denied and on the Mileski Wall). |
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Ed - is the Whole Enchilada really that bad? My first time to EPC - Thanksgiving 2010 - the Enchilada served me great - didn't find any errors - I climbed a lot of the classics. |
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I can't believe you used that book and didn't notice any errors. They obviously didn't bother to proof-read before going to press and there are multiple typos on almost every page, including route grades. Every one of the picture diagrams has at least one mistake and the star rating system is totally bogus. There are dozens of excellent routes that got no stars at all. |
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If you plan on doing any climbing on the Outrage wall, Ed's book is the way to go. The Whole Enchilada's section on the most beautiful wall in the park is pitiful. |
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I am sold on Ed's book! I wish it was also available online so I could get a head-start picking routes; will grab a copy once I arrive. |
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If you're here to climb the long classics you're going to be confused by The Whole Enchilada--you're much better off with the topos and correct info in my book. |
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I'll give you just a couple of examples. Estrellita is a 12 pitch route with variations on the 3rd and 4th pitches. The Whole Enchilada does not explain this clearly and their info is very confusing. Lots of climbers have complained to me about that. |
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So after 6 climbing days down there (good meeting you and Tami, Ed, at Posada!) here's my guidebook musings: |
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I can't really comment on Ed's book, but I can agree that Whole Enchilada was missing routes, had copious amounts of typos, and a star rating system heavily biased by the FA party (in favor of the author). Thankfully, I was able to re-sell the book before leaving. Buying it in advance, as I did, was not terribly beneficial. I recommend trying to get a used copy when you get there or at least compare the two books for yourself before buying. |
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is there anywhere online to get the Climb El Potrero Chico guidebook? I live on the east coast and would really like to get this ahead of time to get a layout and feel for the area and know what routes I want to go after. im hoping its been put up somewhere since this last posting of 2012 but I cant find it anywhere online. or possibly if I could buy it from someone local and have it shipped, that would be great too. |
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kurt gregory wrote:is there anywhere online to get the Climb El Potrero Chico guidebook? I live on the east coast and would really like to get this ahead of time to get a layout and feel for the area and know what routes I want to go after. im hoping its been put up somewhere since this last posting of 2012 but I cant find it anywhere online. or possibly if I could buy it from someone local and have it shipped, that would be great too.buy ed's guidebook when you get there because it contains all of the new routes and updated info (which is important in epc where things are always changing). If you want to buy a guide ahead get "The Whole Enchilada". It is not a great book (lots of incorrect/missing climbs) but the pictures are good and it works well in conjunction with ed's book that you buy when you get there. download the mountain project app and the section for potrero as well, if digital is your thing. link to book: chesslerbooks.com/item/5630… |
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Dane's book is a great introduction if you are new to the area. While Dane's book is dated in regard to new routes, Ed's book is just lists of routes and is hard to get your bearings if you are not familiar with the area. Using both books has provided me with a lot of beta as well as entertainment regarding star ratings and grades. |
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The Farley wrote:Dane's book is a great introduction if you are new to the area. While Dane's book is dated in regard to new routes, Ed's book is just lists of routes and is hard to get your bearings if you are not familiar with the area. Using both books has provided me with a lot of beta as well as entertainment regarding star ratings and grades.This is my experience as well. Neither book works well on its own, but the two work well (enough) together. In addition there is a two-volume guide to climbing in Mexico, and the North section covers EPC as well. Mexico Climbing Guide Books I've not used it, but a quick flip through the EPC section looked reasonable to me. |
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Climb El Potrero Chico by Magic Ed 2014 addition is the most current. If you're set to grab a copy before arriving keep digging or to piggy back your idea, maybe have someone pick up a copy on a trip and send to you? |
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The most current guidebook has just released digitally with Rakkup.com |
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Congrats Frank! Glad to see this live. |
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Thanks so much, it has been a lot of hard work. Can't wait to keep making it better when I get down there in November. |