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people with their music at the crag

mustardtiger · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 20

A war against music at the crag is a war to save the planet!

ClimbHunter · · Reno, NV · Joined Nov 2013 · Points: 15

I have found that most people respond well to polite requests. Maybe they were a gym-born climber that hasn't considered 'respecting the quiet' to be a climber ethic. We can weigh in how 'appropriate' this is all we want, but it all comes down to personal taste. I support frankstones comments. Although I don't like noise-makers at the crag, I also don't expect everyone else to follow unwritten, unspoken rules that I have in my head about what climbers 'should do'.

Most importantly, no progress is possible unless people are willing to talk about it (nicely). Ask them next time. You might be surprised.

If I'm really not in the mood to listen to a ruckus (music blaring/dogs barking/babies crying/incessant blabbering/epic-spraying), I try to go somewhere out of the way where I won't have to. Maple is definitely not one of those places.

Greg D · · Here · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 883

Just drop a rock off a nearby route and smash the little pos. Then, apologize for dislodging a loose rock.

Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 349

A story….
One time not so long ago, I was hanging with the two amigos, one HOT August day in the ORG.

As most of you well know NOBODY climbs down there in the summer heat.

Personally I like it, the normally very busy place is deserted.

So, im working my project, AND the boombox is working…. Note: no tinny telephone speakers but honest to god booming ones with a bass speaker just to get the sound right.

Pantera is playing, im giving it my all, but Express Way is winning- again.

We see two lone figures beginning the decent down into the gorge….. they reach the bottom, turn and walk up stream and then turn and cross the bridge.

They are coming right up to where we are happily enjoying our little party.

Turns out they are Swiss and have come to try their hand at Expressway…..

The first thing out of that dudes mouth is “YOU WILL NOW TURN OFF ZEE MUSIC, JA?”

I mention something about how we were here first and there are like 1,000 other climbs to do, but swiss man says that Expressway is his “dream” and he really really wants to get the OSF…..

OSF is something I admire, so we agree to cease with the tunes while he is climbing. Heck I’m an accommodating person and I love it when folks try hard and want a flash.

So I go down to the stream to cool off and check on the status of the beers.

In the meantime he finally gets out his cord, we gave him permission to run our draws, and finally starts up….. dude takes at the second bolt…..

E pushes the play button.

The moral of this story…. Don’t think you can just walk up and start dictating just how things are going to be.

Flame on bros...

dahigdon · · phoenix, Az · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 220

If you have a problem with something that somebody is doing at the crag, say something... politely. If you don't have the nerve to say something, then don't take to the internet from your basement. YOU DON'T OWN THE GODDAMN MOUNTAIN. I hope my unleashed dog steals a sammich outta your bag.

Greg D · · Here · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 883

Let's be honest people. MoPro is kinda boring right now and it's fucking snowing again.

Instead can we bolt some cracks, belay hands free with a gri, using alpine draws and a stick clip, make a magic x at the top, then lower down through the fixed gear, while shouting I love Ellanor.

darrell hodges · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2008 · Points: 380
Jovid wrote: then don't take to the internet from your basement. YOU DON'T OWN THE GODDAMN MOUNTAIN. I hope my unleashed dog steals a sammich outta your bag.
Huh, I was in my basement too. I guess I should have taken my computer upstairs to the kitchen before bitching on the internets. Next time. If I see you and your dog at my mountain I'll make sure to zip up my pack to keep my sandwiches safe. I'll give your dog some dog treats though.
Steven Groetken · · Durango, CO · Joined Sep 2012 · Points: 390

The music doesn't bother me as much as those damn Mormons. They're always coming up to me when I'm on a climb, talking about magic golden plates or some shit. Elder Jones is starting to get on my last nerve.

frankstoneline · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2009 · Points: 30
CJC wrote: Hilarious. You gotta be trollin'! And if you're not....well,
Pretty well established what Bachar and other notable pioneers had to say about people getting riled over their boombox tunes (though there was some inflammatory implications included for laughs)

Jake Jones wrote: Jesus. So my dog is off leash, and takes a drencher piss on your rope. Your response is to say something politely, and I respond with "It'll be ok man"- because that's how I see fit to respond. Then what? I imagine you get pretty fucking pissed off. But by your rules, it's taken care of. Unless of course you want to take it up with John Bachar. Whatever that means.
As a preface: wouldnt be the first time someones dog has pissed on my things and I've responded in a polite fashion, and fundamentally, it will be ok. Just a rope, and it's a long shot that someone would respond in that fashion. I'd probably ask that you keep your dog leashed to prevent further damage. The issue certainly isn't "taken care of" until I've washed the rope, but the point is that I'm not going to go spraying on the internet. The whole point is that things like these should be dealt with when they are happening. If you need to rant or piss and moan thats why you have friends, and bars.

Dylan B. wrote: It's OK to litter so long as nobody in the vicinity objects? Seriously?
You've misinterpreted my point. If you see someone littering, the responsible thing to do is say something, to them, politely, not piss and moan on the internet.
cragman · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2015 · Points: 0

When I go to the local crag, I usually go with a group of 12-15 friends and we like to listen to music. We also take our 2 pit bulls (and don't start on me about leashes), a bong (hey, it's legal here in Boulder) and a couple coolers full of brewskis. Sometimes, the old farts at the crag kvetch about it but, hey, were just having fun and they don't own the crag...

Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65
Merlin wrote:Nothing to be done but to get yourself some really good bag pipe music, better speakers for your phone, and strike first. Be proactive, not reactive
This:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e5J116IM6M
darrell hodges · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2008 · Points: 380
Guy Keesee wrote:A story…. One time not so long ago, I was hanging with the two amigos, one HOT August day in the ORG. As most of you well know NOBODY climbs down there in the summer heat. Personally I like it, the normally very busy place is deserted. So, im working my project, AND the boombox is working…. Note: no tinny telephone speakers but honest to god booming ones with a bass speaker just to get the sound right. Pantera is playing, im giving it my all, but Express Way is winning- again. We see two lone figures beginning the decent down into the gorge….. they reach the bottom, turn and walk up stream and then turn and cross the bridge. They are coming right up to where we are happily enjoying our little party. Turns out they are Swiss and have come to try their hand at Expressway….. The first thing out of that dudes mouth is “YOU WILL NOW TURN OFF ZEE MUSIC, JA?” I mention something about how we were here first and there are like 1,000 other climbs to do, but swiss man says that Expressway is his “dream” and he really really wants to get the OSF….. OSF is something I admire, so we agree to cease with the tunes while he is climbing. Heck I’m an accommodating person and I love it when folks try hard and want a flash. So I go down to the stream to cool off and check on the status of the beers. In the meantime he finally gets out his cord, we gave him permission to run our draws, and finally starts up….. dude takes at the second bolt….. E pushes the play button. The moral of this story…. Don’t think you can just walk up and start dictating just how things are going to be. Flame on bros...
At least you had the good sense to have an actual BOOM box. With Pantera. Great story.
dahigdon · · phoenix, Az · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 220

Sir Hodges.. So long as it's a musical genre you fancy, It's permissible?

Donovan Allen · · Soft Lake City · Joined May 2012 · Points: 356

I will say I have friends who LOVE music at the crag, this is indicative of the generation we are ushering in. That being said, one of my best friends started playing music from his phone just as the Rockfellow group came into view (needless to say I was a good friend and asked him to quit being a DEWSH!!) nothing like hiking an hour just to wait in line for what's my line, the only thing worse would be doing so with shitty cell phone beats blasting.

Be a good friend/ stranger and stop the audible abuse. NO SIGNIFICANT NO!!

Muscrat · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 3,625

Oh my favorite was the guy who had the external speakers hanging from his pack (he was following as he was too drunk to lead) playing, even his brother/partner admitted, really bad rap. I politely asked him to shut it off, wherein he cried about the right to blast his shit. At which point i offered to throw him off the wall. Boo-hoo. Think of it as second hand smoke/noise. And the music was shut off.
BTW, when he sobered up, at the bottom of the wall some hours later, he did apologize.

Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 349

Look people don't get me wrong.... I think its terrible to inflict your music on folks who want none of it.

That is one of the reasons I go to deserted crags..... If Im going to Malibux, ECHO, The Valley or anyplace where there is likely to be others....I just leave it (boom box)at home.

Anyway at most heavily traffic spots, somebody will be blasting on a cell phone.

Dow Williams · · St. George, Utah; Canmore, AB · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 240

Worrying about being so politically correct has led to the entitlement society we live in today....don't do unto others as you would want them to do unto you has become rather do whatever the fuck you want.

Only place I climb that would ever run into such nonsense is Jtree. Real simple. My rig has these old, but serious speakers and audio hooked up to my spare 12v. And I do mean old as in one of the original members of CCR gave me these dinosaurs decades ago. Ironically enough, my neighbors end up with three choices when they play their music too loud....CCR, AC/DC or Three Dog Night. Those three albums stay with the system specifically for this purpose because I really like to listen to those three loud.

Quit being pussies and confront people who are infringing on your space or experience, dogs, music, mormon bibles, whatever it is. To be honest, best party I have had in ten years was when some youngsters came over after we kicked on the blasters at Hidden Valley and apologized for their shit. As dumb as some can be....hard not to get the message. They brought their party to our fire and stayed all night. Now if only our neighbors had the balls to shut us up they could have got some sleep.

Bill Kirby · · Keene New York · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 480

You guys remind of a good story my friend told me.

So he had a neighbor that played his drums into the night. The neighbor would have jam sessions or whatever you call it. It got too loud for my friend so he got out a rifle and fired off a few rounds. The next day he knocked on his neighbors door and said " I'll stop shooting my rifle if you stop playing your drums!"

Bob . · · lyons, co · Joined May 2012 · Points: 10

Why would he care if your friend fires his rifle? Doesn't sound like a very interesting conversation.
"Umm ok, fire away. See ya later"

Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65
Dow Williams wrote:They brought their party to our fire and stayed all night. Now if only our neighbors had the balls to shut us up they could have got some sleep.
So you're one of those people that can't figure out on their own and need to be told they're being incredibly rude and inconsiderate? You knew you were being an ass yet you choose to blame the victims?
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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