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The Slab (Area) , First Pullout

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Nicholas Gillman · · Las Vegas · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 327

Ive been hiking around red rock the last few months on my non-climbing days (Moved here in December) just trying to learn where things are , logical approaches to things trying to contribute as info as I can (to whats honestly an awesome free source of information). Between Mountain Project and the Handren guide I haven't be left wanting for knowledge of whatever area I'm exploring.

Yesterday walking up past tiger stripe , there was the just unmistakeably bright shine of metal coming from my right. It was 3-4 pairs of chains I had never noticed before (and or were new? perhaps recently replaced?)

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So just scanning the MP app I just clicked on anything I was unfamiliar with and I figured it had to be "The Slab". MP only list one route and while it mentions there are other routes says only one is bolted however I found five sport routes and three sets of TR anchors (One isolated at the very far left of what could be considered still being part of the formation). Other sites had some info but it didn't really seem to jive with what I was looking at and seemed to contradict itself at face vaule , and the Handren guide stuck out.

I'm almost certain to seasoned vets /lifelong locals it isn't the long winded mystery I'm making it out to be , but I can only seem to find incomplete or potentially inaccurate information on it. If someone could fill in the gaps for me I wouldn't mind doing the work to edit/update the area or if someone more well versed with that process could update it , I wouldn't mind uploading a more comprehensive layout photo.

Here is where I am at currently (best viewed full size)

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Grant Mercer · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined Dec 2014 · Points: 246

Huh, I've walked out near this area but never noticed any of the bolts of chains. They might be new? I thought Red Rock was starting to once again enforce the "No new permanent fixed bolt anchors" policy again, won't these be removed? Correct me if I'm wrong of course

Nicholas Gillman · · Las Vegas · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 327

I don't think the bolts or anchors in general are new perhaps just the chains were added/replaced recently (or were stainless ..more or less muting any wear and tear / aging and had been there the whole time..un-noticed). The starting bolts didn't seem to be overly new (some were painted to match the rock.

I agree , Ive walked bast that area a dozen times actually looking out that way at people climbing up at the panty wall or tuna and chips and never noticed anything over there and this time the gleam caught my eye w/o really directly looking over that direction.

The two bolts at the very far left above the dihedral I actually saw last year on a trip to vegas/RR before living here (some people were leading up to it)

Smear Campaign is the only route MP lists for the area ,though which it is of the sport routes here I am unsure... but it was submitted over 2 years ago and other routes are mentioned nearby so it leads me to think this wasn't bolted like last week. Hopefully someone who considers it to be common knowledge will chime in

Thomas Beck · · Las Vegas, Nevada · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,025

#8 in your photo is Redbud Resthome. You can lead a couple of the lines all gear. Maybe 5.4? A little crunchy still. And take the 70m. Good place for your boy scout troop.

The other older bolts, to the right, were an exploration by Mark Limage and Jake Burkey some time ago. Chains are new maybe or just the right sun angle.

Nicholas Gillman · · Las Vegas · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 327

Thanks Tom , That was actually a sticking point since the only place I found that route registered listed it as "Double Geopardy"(5.9) but it was accompanied by the tagline of "Not sure if this is the routes name or not it might be something else" , much appreciated.

Apparently #1 & #2 are fairly recent additions (maybe even only a few weeks old) put up by a Mr.Gene Scott. Hes also listed as the FA on #7 ("What R Streek" 5.9)Ive got an email into him just to see if he can shed more light on the area in general.

#6 looks to for sure be Smear Campaign

My theory is that #3 , #4 and #5 were at one point the only other routes here in addition to Smear Campaign and were TR only .. but at some point bolts were added to #3.

so atm between various sites ,

(1) Slab-A-Dab-A-Doo (5.6 Sport) FA:Gene Scott
(2) Slabulous (5.7 Sport) FA:Gene Scott
(3) The Slab #1 (5.5 Sport , Formerly TR only?) FA:Mark Limage & Jake Burkey
(4) The Slab #2 (5.5 TR) FA:Mark Limage & Jake Burkey
(5) The Slab #3 (5.6 TR) FA:Mark Limage & Jake Burkey
(6) Smear Campaign (5.8 Sport) FA: Jason Martin, Mark Fulmer, Glen Owen
(7) What R Streek (5.9 Sport) FA:Gene Scott
(8) Redbud Resthome (5.4 TR/Lead) FA:???

If anyone knows these gentlemen and or has more information any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.

Chris Burton · · Los Angeles, Ca · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 120

fwiw, i'll confirm that the anchors on #4 & #5 have been there at least twelve or thirteen years. we used to climb up and set topropes on them. at that time i believe they were the only anchors/bolts on that slab.

Thomas Beck · · Las Vegas, Nevada · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,025

Nicholas,

I did first lead on a couple of those at Redbud. Please don't put me on the site or in a guidebook.

Kurt Arend · · Las Vegas, Nv · Joined Apr 2009 · Points: 150

the simplest answer here is to PAINT YOUR SHIT!!! Not while its hanging, but before you decide that you needed to have the chains there. Its not hard, even flat black and they aren't noticeable from far away...

Nicholas Gillman · · Las Vegas · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 327
Chris Burton wrote:fwiw, i'll confirm that the anchors on #4 & #5 have been there at least twelve or thirteen years. we used to climb up and set topropes on them. at that time i believe they were the only anchors/bolts on that slab.
Yeah that kinda confirms the thinking about how the area "evolved" no chance you remember particular route names?

Thomas Beck wrote:Nicholas, I did first lead on a couple of those at Redbud. Please don't put me on the site or in a guidebook.
No worries man.. I can certainly understand/respect peoples privacy, I appreciate you just putting it out there so I don't chase my tail trying to find it out.

Kurt Burt wrote:the simplest answer here is to PAINT YOUR SHIT!!! Not while its hanging, but before you decide that you needed to have the chains there. Its not hard, even flat black and they aren't noticeable from far away...
Not really the discussion on the table lol
Chris Burton · · Los Angeles, Ca · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 120
NicholasG wrote: Yeah that kinda confirms the thinking about how the area "evolved" no chance you remember particular route names?
sorry, but i have no idea.
Nicholas Gillman · · Las Vegas · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 327
Chris Burton wrote: sorry, but i have no idea.
No worries , man ..I think Ive got it sorted enough just finish a topo and add the remaining routes , I got an email back from Mr.Scott and he filled in some things for me and confirmed others. Was even able to find the 5th bolt in #3 lol.

Cheers to all who contributed to figuring it out. I appreciate it.
Thomas Beck · · Las Vegas, Nevada · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,025

Nicholas,

For those routes on the far left you should give credit to Julie Brenner. Without her urging and direction I would never have spent the hardware to equip the tops of the lines. Farthest right one in that group you can set up with cams for top roping..I thought that section of the wall was too chossy to justify bolts.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Nevada
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