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Have any climbers gone to the MGM for an I.V. treatment?

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M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911

I'm thinking after a few long days of doing routes and pounding beers after that this might just be the best rest day activity around. I'm thinking the Hydromax treatment would be my choice. The B-12 might be good instead of a bunch of coffee in the morning.

gotta love vegas

Bill Czajkowski · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Oct 2008 · Points: 20

When I was in a military unit which had medics it was pretty common for some people to get an IV when they were hungover, had dehydration headaches, and a few other ailements. They swore by them.

M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911
Bill Czajkowski wrote:When I was in a military unit which had medics it was pretty common for some people to get an IV when they were hungover, had dehydration headaches, and a few other ailements. They swore by them.
the ultimate hangover remedy! I wonder how late and early they give the IVs, probably 24/7 if I know Vegas
FrankPS · · Atascadero, CA · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 276

Looks like snake oil to me. "A sucker and his money are soon parted." PT Barnum.

M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911
FrankPS wrote:Looks like snake oil to me. "A sucker and his money are soon parted." PT Barnum.
mainlining B-12 is no joke man
Matt Kuehl · · Las Vegas · Joined Nov 2010 · Points: 1,712

I don't know, might be considered Aid

William Kramer · · Kemmerer, WY · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 935

IV with 1000ml of NS is the classic cure EMT's do on themselves. Thiamine is B-12, which is the med we use for alcohol induced stuff like seizures, coma, DT's, etc.

So should work, is it a legit service provided?

M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911
William Kramer wrote: is it a legit service provided?
I'm hoping it is and they cut me in on some profits for advertising the service. Gyms should start doing it, the money is there. I'd imagine a B-12 shot would work as fast as one could put their shoes on after the IV
beensandbagged · · smallest state · Joined Oct 2013 · Points: 0

When you start thinking about stinking stuff into your veins, maybe it is time to think about getting a life.

Greg DeMatteo · · W. Lebanon, NH · Joined May 2007 · Points: 315
William Kramer wrote:IV with 1000ml of NS is the classic cure EMT's do on themselves. Thiamine is B-12, which is the med we use for alcohol induced stuff like seizures, coma, DT's, etc. So should work, is it a legit service provided?
It works like magic on people who are actually deficient in B12. Which is likely nobody on this forum who isn't currently seizing or just coming off a month long drinking binge.
Annie T. · · nevada · Joined Jan 2012 · Points: 5

Hey Miike they have a bus that goes around the strip run by and Md called Hangover Bus or Hangover Heaven..you can find them online. I heard they also go to UNLV campus. I'm an er rn downtown and have heard a lot about them thru the grapevine at work.

Taylor-B. · · Valdez, AK · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 3,186
William Kramer wrote:IV with 1000ml of NS is the classic cure EMT's do on themselves.
Trust me, it's a challenge to start a line on your self.

Crack Shot!

No BSI needed!
Paul-B · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2011 · Points: 115
William Kramer wrote:Thiamine is B-12


Nope Thiamine is B1, B12 is hydroxocobalamin

William Kramer wrote: which is the med we use for alcohol induced stuff like seizures, coma, DT's, etc


Nope. We use benzos or barbituates for DT's- which include alcohol withdrawal siezures.

Thiamine is given to hopefully ward of Wernicke's encephalopathy, something chronic alcoholics are at risk for
SRB25 · · Woodside, ca · Joined Nov 2014 · Points: 5

It's fun watching a climbing forum turn to patho phys, pharmacology and pharm dynamics.

M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911
annieb wrote:Hey Miike they have a bus that goes around the strip run by and Md called Hangover Bus or Hangover Heaven..you can find them online. I heard they also go to UNLV campus. I'm an er rn downtown and have heard a lot about them thru the grapevine at work.
just imagine being able to drink like a fish all night AND climb like a goat all day!

yet another bonus of living large in LV!
Morgan Patterson · · NH · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 8,945

Not sure if this is brilliant or sick...

M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911
Morgan Patterson wrote:Not sure if this is brilliant or sick...
its gotta be better than selling plasma for beer money, right?
William Kramer · · Kemmerer, WY · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 935
Paul-B wrote: Nope Thiamine is B1, B12 is hydroxocobalamin Nope. We use benzos or barbituates for DT's- which include alcohol withdrawal siezures. Thiamine is given to hopefully ward of Wernicke's encephalopathy, something chronic alcoholics are at risk for
You're right, it is B1, our scope has shifted to using thiamine in place of benzos and barbituates for DT's, gotta love the ever changing world of emergency medicine.
Paul-B · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2011 · Points: 115
William Kramer wrote: You're right, it is B1, our scope has shifted to using thiamine in place of benzos and barbituates for DT's, gotta love the ever changing world of emergency medicine.
This is wrong. Very wrong. Thiamine does absolutely nothing for DTs. You give this for other reasons. Benzos are absolutely the mainstay of alcohol withdrawal treatment.

This has nothing to do with this thread. Let's get back on topic
William Kramer · · Kemmerer, WY · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 935
Paul-B wrote: This is wrong. Very wrong. Thiamine does absolutely nothing for DTs. You give this for other reasons. Benzos are absolutely the mainstay of alcohol withdrawal treatment. This has nothing to do with this thread. Let's get back on topic
By benzos I'm assuming you mean midazolam, diazepam, or ativan? Those are still the front line meds for seizures, but indications for Thiamine is seizure or coma of unknown nature that alcohol abuse is subject, or seizures caused by delirium tremens. Thiamine is coenzyme in the body used for the metabolism of pyruvate to acetyl-coenzyme-A, the base of ATP production and start of the Kreb's cycle. Alcohol interferes with the bodies use of Thiamine, if prolonged can lead to Wernike's and Karosakoff's psychosis due to thiamine deficiency.

No it doesn't have anything really to do with this thread, I confused Thiamine (B1) with B12, and was corrected on that. I can say from experience that an IV with normal saline does wonders for a hangover though, just usually not an allowed practice unless it is a 911 call, I've known Medics to get fired over it.
William Kramer · · Kemmerer, WY · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 935
Taylor-B. wrote: Trust me, it's a challenge to start a line on your self.
Yes it is, especially with those crappy catheters! Only a 20? Could easily get a 16 or 14 in that AC
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Nevada
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