Climbing Partners for the Weekend
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I'm heading back into Vegas tonight and am looking for some climbing partners for the weekend. I just recently moved to Vegas and am looking for steady partners. |
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Hopefully you are looking for partners to climb limestone, granite, or basalt, because it is soaked out in Red Rock. Over a quarter of an inch of rain (a big, big deal in the desert and when it comes to sandstone) has already fallen at the Visitor's Center. Please stay off the sandstone. |
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Im in Vegas until tomorrow around 2pm. I'd love to get a morning session in. I am only here for work but I come here often. My best lead is probably a soft 5.11. |
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Lone Mountain or Gun Club for you! |
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You tell me. I'm not familiar with those two but I will definitely try them out. I'm kinda going to lean on you for some assistance here. Local knowledge would be great. Can we climb and be back by 2? My work has me in a hotel just east of the airport but i don't have a car. I'm willing to take public transportation as far as I can. Also since I am just here for work I didn't bring all my gear. I only have harness, shoes, daisy chain, and an ATC. |
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I've already got plans tomorrow, but was saying for you and OP to visit those... |
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he's being polite, what he really means is stay off the damn sandstone! |
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Thanks for the heads up. I didn't know it was raining in Vegas! I've climbed after it has rained in RR (I didn't know you weren't supposed to and won't anymore) and didn't notice any difference in the quality of the rock as far as any holds breaking; however, I've climbed when it has been perfectly dry for days and broken off many pieces of rock. It seems as if sandstone is unavoidably and naturally exfoliating itself. |
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Forget the science behind how sandstone absorbs water like a sponge and weakens the matrix of the rock.....If the visitor center said its ok then its got to be ok...Right?! |
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I wasn't trying to be disrespectful in any way. Just interested about the topic. |
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Neil Kauffman wrote:Matt, how long have you been climbing on sandstone? It's common knowledge that it is a porous rock and very susceptible to moisture permeation resulting in wear and tear or breaking. Ever put water on the rock in Indian Creek to get a cam out? I think many of us are tired of seeing climbers "getting after it" on the sandstone way too soon after the rain. So what's going on? You're here for a short vacation and can't waste any precious days to let the rock recover? Every time I drive past Supercrack on a forced rest day from rain, there's always an astonishing number of clueless or downright unabashed climbers on the routes. Bottom line, don't do it, and if you see others, say something so they might at least be informed or reminded that their actions effect others and the resource. Pitiful and sad.Well, for me it wasn't common knowledge because I just recently moved to an area where there is sandstone. I'm not trying to be disrespectful in any way, just asking a relevant question in regards to the strength of the sandstone. I've had misconceptions about many things in my life that I once thought were true, but then ended up that they were false. I'm must curious to see if there is any hard evidence supporting the fact in some type of research based format. I don't know why that is pitiful and sad. Andrew, thanks for the link to the site. I checked that out as well. Hopefully in the future, the website can cite some sources on where they obtained the information that the strength decreases when wet. |
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Matthew, |
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Absolutely, and I understand your frustration. It's challenging - I work and live here as a guide and I have to turn away work and explain to frustrated guests why we can't climb due to rain. |
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Mathew, |