Staying Yosemite Valley?

Darren Mabe wrote: and yet people still wonder why that is the case

The whole situation in Yosemite is kind of jacked all together. There are just way too damn many people there. Unfortunately I dont think there is any easy solution without denying people access. Climbing there long term just cannot be done without breaking some form of law.

stay in a ledge 2 pitches up a wall in an area thats not very visible, jug up and down every day. or hike 30 minutes into the woods and sleep there. neither are very good ideas for obvious reasons. satying in your car gets you a fat ticket. best option is the pit. another thing you can do is go without a car and just bring bikes. have one person in your group sign up for a week at camp 4. keep a low profile and then you sign up for the next week

Nate K wrote:stay in a ledge 2 pitches up a wall in an area thats not very visible, jug up and down every day. or hike 30 minutes into the woods and sleep there. neither are very good ideas for obvious reasons. satying in your car gets you a fat ticket. best option is the pit. another thing you can do is go without a car and just bring bikes. have one person in your group sign up for a week at camp 4. keep a low profile and then you sign up for the next week

Wow that almost sounds like the special ones that stay for half price and twice as long!

Hey Zimmy, where have you been? No additional comments on your thread?

Thank you all.
If the information is accurate, then you all have been very kind and generous by your suggestions.

The first time I went to Yosemite was in my '56 Ford (in 1968), and I drove up to the shore of Mirror Lake and took a picture. Can you imagine that?! In 1969 and 1970 I spent several summer months living at Camp 10 in my VW bus. I seem to recall that the stay limit was 10 days, but then we would just move to a new picnic table/campsite. Ahhh... those were the days. Never stayed at Camp 4 because you couldn't park next to your picnic table. Years later when confronted by the shock of the restrictions, I parked at the Park Service offices and slept out in the meadows. Kinda like Washington DC... when the cops busted us for sleeping in a car near the Washington Monument, I parked in the DC Police station parking lot (near the monuments) and had a good nights sleep.
LBD

Nate K wrote:stay in a ledge 2 pitches up a wall in an area thats not very visible, jug up and down every day. or hike 30 minutes into the woods and sleep there. neither are very good ideas for obvious reasons. satying in your car gets you a fat ticket. best option is the pit. another thing you can do is go without a car and just bring bikes. have one person in your group sign up for a week at camp 4. keep a low profile and then you sign up for the next week

what is the "the pit"?

mountain project should take this thread down. It just adds to the shitty rep climbers have in yosemite... either you know how to get around in the valley or you don't (and the best way to learn is to go), honestly it's not difficult.

"the pit" is now closed by Caltrans as far as I am aware due to people outright pitching tents there and treating it by more like a camp site than what it really was, a bivy.