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Russ Walling · · Flaky Foont, WI. Redacted… · Joined Oct 2004 · Points: 1,216

spray paint dicks

Benjamin Chapman · · Small Town, USA · Joined Jan 2007 · Points: 18,818

Russ....I'm all for getting that hardware painted before it's installed. Have you got any photos of the hangers and overspray on this pile? A pictures worth at least one thousand words. Glad to see you're back from vacation and out patrolling.

Locker · · Yucca Valley, CA · Joined Oct 2002 · Points: 2,349

Pretty lame.

K Weber · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2011 · Points: 15

Better do a good job on the clean up. Lots of "repairs" turn out worse than the original work.

Thomas Beck · · Las Vegas, Nevada · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,025

Oh Russ, man... Yeah they are candidates for the Bottle Rocket award. But seriously, a note might do more good than pulling the bolts, Suggest some spray paint, and a $20 Wal Mart toaster oven at 325° for 20 minutes does the trick. Let them know. Spay painting in place is so not done.

Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 349

Russ... good on you. hard to get the paint off of dem rocks.

Locker · · Yucca Valley, CA · Joined Oct 2002 · Points: 2,349
"Better do a good job on the clean up"

You've been warned!

Edited:

It ain't rocket science.

LMAO!
Greg Opland · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2001 · Points: 181
K Weber wrote:Better do a good job on the clean up. Lots of "repairs" turn out worse than the original work.
A wise man once said don't try to teach yer granny to suck eggs .

You should go chase down the morons who put new bolts next to the old bolts on this route and left the old bolts right where they were.
You can give them your lecture.
Morgan Patterson · · NH · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 8,945

If you need to clean up the rock... use this stuff. Works like magic...

taginator.com/wordpress/pro…

Climber tested and approved.

Trad Princess · · Not That Into Climbing · Joined Jan 2012 · Points: 1,175

I'M A MAN!!11!1!!1

Locker · · Yucca Valley, CA · Joined Oct 2002 · Points: 2,349

^^^

Was your gender being questioned?

What the hell did I miss this time?

LOL!

Adam Stackhouse · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 13,970
Morgan Patterson wrote:If you need to clean up the rock... use this stuff. Works like magic... taginator.com/wordpress/pro… Climber tested and approved.
This is a better suggestion than just ripping out the route. Of course it is not as glamorous as chest puffing though...
Trad Princess · · Not That Into Climbing · Joined Jan 2012 · Points: 1,175
Adam Stackhouse wrote: This is a better suggestion than just ripping out the route. Of course it is not as glamorous as chest puffing though...
CLIMBING RAWR!1!1!!1!1!!!!!11
Allen Sanderson · · On the road to perdition · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 1,203
Morgan Patterson wrote:If you need to clean up the rock... use this stuff. Works like magic... taginator.com/wordpress/pro… Climber tested and approved.
Around here folks have had good luck with Elephant Snot on the granite:

graffitisolutions.com/produ…
Trad Princess · · Not That Into Climbing · Joined Jan 2012 · Points: 1,175

Climb Already, you're like a less-funny/relevant Trolleanor (see: not funny/relevant)

Russ, totally posted in the wrong thread. I thought I was posting in "size 41 TC pros FS - new with tags, and also state your gender" in the FOR SALE board.

Patrick Shyvers · · Fort Collins, CO · Joined Jul 2013 · Points: 10
Russ Walling wrote:Todays penalty is your route gets erased.
I'm not a JT guy, nor a bolter, so I'm no familiar with the ethics. I'm curious, isn't that a recipe for bolting/chopping wars- wars in which the rock is always the loser?
Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 349
Patrick Shyvers wrote: I'm not a JT guy, nor a bolter, so I'm no familiar with the ethics. I'm curious, isn't that a recipe for bolting/chopping wars- wars in which the rock is always the loser?
IMHO.... the stone always loses when some chipper starts wailing away. Russ is the Man when it comes to JT climbs, Im pretty sure he has climbed most of the climbs in the park and he has a good eye for just what is over the line.
20 kN · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2009 · Points: 1,346
Patrick Shyvers wrote: I'm not a JT guy, nor a bolter, so I'm no familiar with the ethics. I'm curious, isn't that a recipe for bolting/chopping wars- wars in which the rock is always the loser?
In most areas it is. Cannot comment about JT. However, usually when someone gets their bolts chopped they just go back and drill new holes and place new bolts. Typically the best solution would be to take it up with the FA first and try to get him to correct his actions without outside intervention.
Taylor J · · Taos NM · Joined Nov 2010 · Points: 390
Russ Walling wrote: Guy you flatter me.... but to the question, no, the rock is not always the loser. When done correctly, the route is truly erased. If it can't be done to where basically nobody could ever tell, then something else will be done. I went out the other day to find a past atrocity that was erased. I could not find it, even knowing where the bolts were and I was for sure standing right in front of them. One of them was only two feet off the ground, and I could not find the patched hole. So no, the rock does not always lose.
And if they do come back and rebolt it? Just curious....
Greg Opland · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2001 · Points: 181

I don't really buy into the "don't chop it, they'll just replace it" argument.

In essence, what you're saying is "Go ahead, do a lousy, sloppy, job. Put in as many ridiculous bolts as you want. Make as big of a mess as you want, and it will be left alone." Enough is enough. Maybe having to buy new bolts will make them think and/or get their act together the next time. Might be the only way to get some of these dimwits to behave responsibly.

Benjamin Chapman · · Small Town, USA · Joined Jan 2007 · Points: 18,818

Taylor J....then the bolts get pulled and the holes get meticulously patched. Costs less to pull and patch then to drill and place more bolts.
Russ has the experience to do the job right and the message will be loud and clear.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Southern California
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