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First Recorded Ascent at Angel Food Landing, Red Rock Canyon, NV.

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Jellywolliyums Padawon Supertramp · · 201 Adams St. Woodsboro, Ma… · Joined Dec 2014 · Points: 85
sarcasm · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2010 · Points: 445

Never heard it called Angel Food Landing before. Thought it was just Angel Food Wall.
It's besides the point. Nice "route".
Keep putting up sick lines dude. Can't wait to see the next one, lol.

sarcasm · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2010 · Points: 445

Oh, also, did you name each pitch? Super cool. Most routes just have a name, and then number the pitches. I think your way is better.

R. Moran · · Moab , UT · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 140

Damn named each pitch then renamed the wall. Nice

frankstoneline · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2009 · Points: 30

Cool first retro-naming bruh. Admins can we get an option for this on route pages so i can update all my first retro-naming ticks?

ze dirtbag · · Tahoe · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 50

this amuses me. go on

Creed Archibald · · Salt Lake City, UT · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 1,016

OP - Welcome to Mountain Project. Everything you do and say can and will be ridiculed.

Derrick W · · Golden, CO · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 868

My partner and I did Group Therapy on Thursday. We got off route once or twice, but we didn't see bolted anchors at any of the belays (thought we missed the fourth belay stance). I don't know what anchors the OP is talking about.

ze dirtbag · · Tahoe · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 50

you should just name all the pitches to avoid confusion

Joey Williams · · Berlin, MD · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 30

Woah this got a lot of attention.

Okay - cool!

Yes, this has gotten confusing and I will clarify everything in this post.

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My friend Benjamin smith and I were planning to climb tunnel vision, with getting rude rocks in as a warm up for a full day on the wall. Mistakenly, we climbed the dihedral system found in the topo, between rude rocks and group therapy.

Ben, realizing his mistake 10 m up relishing our error and bails on a nut.

I go back up to get the nut and feel out a little down climb, or aid my way down with gear.

When I got to the nut, to bens surprise I kept climbing.

40 m later I find a ledge to belay off and ultimately rappel off with the horns and incut crack systems nearby.

As I expected, the rope got STUCK.like a truck on either end, stuck.

With 2.5 arboricultural years of experience. I used an SRT ascension method. Placed on a bomb silver 11 BD piece. Got to the ground. Posted on mnt proj (first post)

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Ben and I went back the next day and linked the second pitch.

And yeah I thought for sure we were rapping down group thereapy...

Hmm, I'm from west by god virginia so I wouldn't know anyway!

marty funkhouser · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2007 · Points: 20

I really like this thread and the OP. Sounds like just the sort of adventures I'd get into when I was starting out. There was no Internet back then, but id be just as excited when I thought I'd made an (accidental) FA. Id rush over to Rock&Snow full of enthusiasm and be gently reminded that I'd most definitely not done an FA, but I should name it anyway. Fun times and brings me back. Keep exploring! There is so much out there and once you've had a taste of A few FA's you've never stop.

Jellywolliyums Padawon Supertramp · · 201 Adams St. Woodsboro, Ma… · Joined Dec 2014 · Points: 85

Thanks man! Appreciate the understanding, sure - I am excited!

And, an ultimate 'by the way' to all who read!

- The naming of each pitch was inspired by the ever-so-popular 2 -pitch route at Seneca Rocks, WV.

Marshalls Madness 5.9
Crack of Dawn 5.10a

Similar, huh!?

Arrgh-youahbully , the best routes At Seneca.

mountainproject.com/images/…

Crusher420 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 0

Simpsons did it

Allen Sanderson · · On the road to perdition · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 1,203
Joey Williams wrote:Hmm, I'm from west by god virginia so I wouldn't know anyway!
Son ya got some learning to do. It is West by God, smile when you say that, Virginia. Damn youngsters ain't got no sense - not to mention yer gittin off route. At least yer pa taught ya to climb trees - probably to git possums.

FWIW - I did my first climbing adventures around Copper's Rock, Seneca Rocks, and Dolly Sods and grew up Morgantown.
R. Moran · · Moab , UT · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 140

Just throwing it out there . I've been off route lots in Red Rocks, but I'm not naming that shit and calling it a first ascent. Should I be? Should u be?

Allen Sanderson · · On the road to perdition · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 1,203
R. Moran wrote:Just throwing it out there . I've been off route lots in Red Rocks, but I'm not naming that shit and calling it a first ascent. Should I be? Should u be?
In some cases, why not? It just depends on how far off route you are. Just give it a name and called a FRA like he did. Better than "Unknown variation" FA ???
Jellywolliyums Padawon Supertramp · · 201 Adams St. Woodsboro, Ma… · Joined Dec 2014 · Points: 85

Oh no worries man, its hard to get things straight over internet communication.

Yeah, take a look at this picture, we end at the first belay station for Group Therapy.

The other one is what the first pitch looks like from the ground. At the top there is an alternate finish, off-width roof, to crimpy jugs to mantle with. The easier, and significantly safer route is to follow the face out right, definitiely wouldn't want to fall there.

Might I add - Every bit of gear IS solid and good, its just sparse and comprised of micro nuts and C3s. The best pro is in the upper dihedral, you get a purple BD nut and purple .5 cam right squat next to each other in this tapering crack.

Its a rad two pitches! The sketch of the first pitch toootally pays off for the second, its so good!!

(Just have your buddy do the first pitch, "Hey man, it isss the easier of the two pitches..." lol)

Topo

First pitch, alt. finish

Jellywolliyums Padawon Supertramp · · 201 Adams St. Woodsboro, Ma… · Joined Dec 2014 · Points: 85
Jellywolliyums Padawon Supertramp · · 201 Adams St. Woodsboro, Ma… · Joined Dec 2014 · Points: 85

Yes! Yes Yes Yes yesssssss, there were two sets of bolted anchors.

Where the red line stops on the topo, the end of our route, is at the first belay stance for Group therapy, and YES there WERE BOLTED ANCHORS at that location. Of which I am not 100% sure is group therapy, but couldn't see what else it would be.

Clear? haha

Jellywolliyums Padawon Supertramp · · 201 Adams St. Woodsboro, Ma… · Joined Dec 2014 · Points: 85

No Mas,

Like I said, not from around here, so there being bolts was no surprise to me, and I half expected there to be and was very happy to find them!

The next rappel was also off a set of bolts, which I would presume would be retro fitted for group therapy as well.

I did NOT install these, I have NEVER installed bolts, and I NEVER will.

Think I would blindly climb an R rated trad route, to then install bolts at the top? haha, c'moooon maaaan!

So, yeah go chop those shiny shits. Theres plenty of natural pro to rap off for this "new?" route.

Get after it.

Creed Archibald · · Salt Lake City, UT · Joined Apr 2012 · Points: 1,016

"No mas" ... As in, there's "no mas" coffee in the house and that's why you're being such a grumpy prick? Chill.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Nevada
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