New Grivel Twin Gate Carabiner

mattm wrote:Initial reports on these are quite positive. cold thistle blog in particular (a place that doesn't accept crap gear) likes them a lot.

Here's the link to that review. I wouldn't use it for my quickdraws ever, but I think it would be handy in icy conditions where screwgates can be tricky or come undone for anchors or your belay biner. Is it overkill? Probably, but its inventive and makes things safer. So if it helps people feel that way and more confident in their protection, then good on them.

Woodchuck ATC wrote:I checked just a couple days ago,,,still NONE shown from the listed source to purchase here in the US....again,,like other items shown in Climbing and Rock and Ice ads,,,the ads precede the production by months and months sometimes....so I'm not expecting to find any until late spring,,if I even care by then anymore.

The Grivel guy said not until March at the very earliest. They are currently available in Europe however.

They are very fun to play with at least. I'm hoping to have one to use in the field soon.

My review on MP HERE

I bought a few of these to try them out. First functional use was yesterday while ice climbing my belayer's locking biner kept freezing up on him so I gave him one of these to use. No problem with these freezing and once you figure out how to use them they are easy to manage even with thick gloves on. Super fast to use when setting up and taking down anchors.

I'll post more info later as I use them more but I did notice it is possible for the rope to catch the outer wire gate (smaller wire gate version) if it was running over the gate at the right angle and be forced out of the carabiner. Probably a slim chance that would ever happen, but, since everyone is talking about the "what ifs" with these then that could happen. It's not completely locked.