Celsius for the non-Americans

The 'peak season' feature that was released a few months back is easily one of my favourite recent additions. Easily.

Only complaint: fahrenheit is hard to read with a decent level of precision for the rest of the world. It isn't even like feet for height, most non-American climbers are sufficiently comfortable with translating that (~3' per metre, no biggie).

Adding celsius, I understand, *could* be complicated by additions to profile settings, but there's an MVP solution, IMO, in the form of a toggle on the graph itself. It's the only place I can think of where the site itself (i.e. not user submitted copy) references temperature. Cookies would be a bonus on an MVP. Long-term solution would involve non-superficial location settings on profiles (amongst other things), which I completely understand is non-trivial.

(F-32)*(5/9)=C

Easy

Nik Sorenson wrote:(F-32)*(5/9)=C Easy

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not... I'm well aware the units can be converted, but that isn't exactly an instant calculation. Instead it's trying to remember what 50ºF is, what 75ºF is, etc. and estimating the rest of the way.

gavinsmith wrote: I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not... I'm well aware the units can be converted, but that isn't exactly an instant calculation. Instead it's trying to remember what 50ºF is, what 75ºF is, etc. and estimating the rest of the way.

I'm with you on this. As a foreigner, even after 12 years here the F scale still makes limited sense. I have a few reference points and do the quick and dirty conversion when needed (remove 30, divide by 2, slighlty underestimates actual temp in C) but still feel like an ape figuring out the use of the first tool...
For climbing, I know that 30 and below is for heinous granite slabs, 30 to 40 is for sunny granite stuff, 40 to 50 is for everything, 50 to 60 is for edging, 60 to 70 is for pockets, 70 and above is for biking...

Boissal wrote: For climbing, I know that 30 and below is for heinous granite slabs, 30 to 40 is for sunny granite stuff, 40 to 50 is for everything, 50 to 60 is for edging, 60 to 70 is for pockets, 70 and above is for biking...

It's funny you put it this way, because I think you just made a case fahrenheit is a better scale for ambient temperature than celsius, because there's a decision point for every 10 degree range, with 0 being really cold & 100 being really hot. Imagine describe the above using celsius, who cares water boils at 100 when you are only interested in ambient temperature?

Canadians are just so damn nice, how can I say no? Butter me up with a compliment and ask for something easy! Done, and I went ahead and put precipitation in both inches and centimeters too.

Give it a try at your favorite area; it should look like this:

Temps in F and C

Precip in Inches and cm

Quick Reference

Nick beat me to it. Nice!

reboot wrote: It's funny you put it this way, because I think you just made a case fahrenheit is a better scale for ambient temperature than celsius, because there's a decision point for every 10 degree range, with 0 being really cold & 100 being really hot.

You're misreading me, I'd never state that the F scale is anything but impractical. It may be on par with the C scale for describing ambient temperatures but for anything else it's comically annoying to deal with. Along with anything that isn't metric.

reboot wrote: Imagine describe the above using celsius,

Below 0 is for heinous granite slabs, 0 to 5 is for sunny granite stuff, 5 to 10 is for everything, 10 to 15 is for edging, 15 to 20 is for pockets, 20 and above is for biking...
Holy fuck was that mentally taxing. Cs are more intuitive, makes more sense for 0 to be freezing cold than it does for 30. The decision points are every 5 degrees instead of 10. If you don't feel that's enough range you can use that thing called a decimal...

So why compress it to units of 5 when we have 20-90? And if metric is so superior, why don't we keep time in base 10? You get used to units, doesn't make one unit better. Metric is invented for scientific purpose, not necessarily for every life. With the advent of computers, it isn't as critical as before.

Nick Wilder wrote:Canadians are just so damn nice, how can I say no? Butter me up with a compliment and ask for something easy! Done, and I went ahead and put precipitation in both inches and centimeters too. Give it a try at your favorite area; it should look like this:

That's awesome, thanks a lot Nick!

I have more compliments to use in conjunction with future feature requests.

The unit debate... Meh.

Here's my mental quick-reference for C-to-F conversion; since 5/9ths maps much easier to a 10:18 ratio it's simple to extend as needed. (e.g. -10c = 14f, or 40c = 104f)

0 = 32
10 = 50 (cool day)
20 = 68 (room temp)
30 = 86 (warm day)

reboot wrote:So why compress it to units of 5 when we have 20-90? And if metric is so superior, why don't we keep time in base 10? You get used to units, doesn't make one unit better. Metric is invented for scientific purpose, not necessarily for every life. With the advent of computers, it isn't as critical as before.

The list of advantages of the metric system over the imperial system is quite long and if you fail to recognize that I'm not going to try and sell you on it. Personally I prefer cm to inches as it makes powder days seem deeper but I'll take long distances in miles as it makes the drive seem shorter... Your fat ass also looks thinner in kg.

In the end I agree with you, both systems work well for everyday life and it's easy enough to get used to imperial if you were raised in metric. I'm sure it works the other way too, most people who take a science class (ie most people) seem to do OK with the metric thing.

Nick, thanks for the change!

All I know is my car gets 900000 rods per the hogshead.

Just the way god intended it.

Should we get area 'Prime Time' usage stats in SI units as well?

I'm also used to Celsius, it was hard to make sense of Fahrenheit, until I started to think about it this way:
30 °F is about 0 °C (freezing)

Above that, every 10 degrees increase in Fahrenheit is about 5 degrees increase in Celsius.

So 40 °F is about 5 °C.
60 °F is about 15 °C.
70 °F is about 20 °C.

It's basically putting the conversion some of you uses to words, but for me it's easier to remember this way.

82 F = 28 C

Works for me.

I like Celsius because at 14* F you can tell people it was ten below....

I grew up in Minnesota. I always thought they were the same. -40F = -40C.

I've came up with an easy system being in Whistler twice a year.

30c too hot to wear pads riding my bicycle

20c perfect!

10c stay in the lower bike park

5c it's going rain instead of snow.. Damn it!!

0c 32F good snowboarding

-1 to -10 below freezing

-10 to -15 brrr thought we were in Whistler.

-15- to -20 Head to the Rambles

-20 and under head to the bar