Movement's New Denver Climbing Gym
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20 kN wrote: Startup fees have always annoyed me. I travel a lot and only spend a month or a few weeks in one area. Daypasses are not the way to go, so I get a single monthly membership; however, I am not going to pay $170 to climb in a gym for a few weeks, that's ridiculous. Startup fees dont actually cover any real expense so it seems like they are just the latest scam to trick people into paying more money than they think. They dont want to charge $90 a month, so they do $70 a month and $70 startup so you think you're only paying $70 a month.Agree on the startup fees. That is one big reason I chose to join the BRC when I moved to Denver despite it being 50 minutes away from me, instead of Earth Treks which is 20 min away. That, and a regular, reliable, partner who I trust. Of lesser importance, I prefer rock colored walls to clay red or blue/white walls. I preferred the more low-key people of the BRC to the flashy-looking people of Movement. And while I don't love autobelays, it is nice to know I have an option other than bouldering if my partner can't make it. |
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Andy B wrote: I echo that x10. Movement and ET are really nice facilities, but I just want a low key place that I can go to train hard when the weather sucks and not spend $19 a pop.Isn't Thrillseekers still open? And the DBC? |
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reboot wrote: Isn't Thrillseekers still open? And the DBC?That's your real gym value right there. It's like Gym Jones compared to Lifetime Fitness. |
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slim wrote: ummm, so what's stopping YOU from opening this fantastical "community-owned" gym?..... (crickets chirping....) that's what i thought.....Fantastical? It's already been done: summitclimbing.org/ What's stopping ME? Let's see.. I'm not a white upper class male from a white upper class family, for starters. As far as the rest of Denver goes, there are a lot of properly indoctrinated fellows who believe in the myth of the American free market (I'm guessing you believe in this myth). Some of those believers might not welcome a community-run gym and may be in positions that enable them to prevent one from opening. Additionally, those who have an interest in a community-run gym probably do not have a surplus amount of cash - otherwise they would be rejoicing for the blessing in Denver that is Movement. Insurance is expensive, too. In short, money and politics are stopping me. But mostly money. Do you have any contributions to make? Stay out of Denver. Better yet, move to Texas with all the other "slims." |
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How is summitclimbing.org any different? They've got a $50 startup fee and $60/month membership. |
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Who Dat wrote: Fantastical? It's already been done: summitclimbing.org/ What's stopping ME? Let's see.. I'm not a white upper class male from a white upper class family, for starters. As far as the rest of Denver goes, there are a lot of properly indoctrinated fellows who believe in the myth of the American free market (I'm guessing you believe in this myth). Some of those believers might not welcome a community-run gym and may be in positions that enable them to prevent one from opening. Additionally, those who have an interest in a community-run gym probably do not have a surplus amount of cash - otherwise they would be rejoicing for the blessing in Denver that is Movement. Insurance is expensive, too. In short, money and politics are stopping me. But mostly money. Do you have any contributions to make? Stay out of Denver. Better yet, move to Texas with all the other "slims."Rather than Slim moving to Texas, I think you should get your ass over to North Korea. Not much of that nasty old capitalism there. No white privilege either. |
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Who Dat wrote: What's stopping ME? Let's see.. I'm not a white upper class male from a white upper class family, for starters.Well well, not being white means you can't do shit in Denver? How ignorant is that? PLEASE don't tell this guy: Or he may not come to the ribbon cutting! And as for the male and middle class question, you know, I can think of a few people that have overcome that barrier too: I think your main barrier to opening such a thing in Denver could be that you are not in Denver. |
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I popped over to The Good Life Blog. |
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Who Dat wrote: As far as the rest of Denver goes, there are a lot of properly indoctrinated fellows who believe in the myth of the American free market (I'm guessing you believe in this myth). Some of those believers might not welcome a community-run gym and may be in positions that enable them to prevent one from opening.Ah yes, the powerful indoor climbing lobby, aka BIG GYM, will stop at nothing to crush your subversive coop dreams. |
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Who Dat wrote: Fantastical? It's already been done: summitclimbing.org/ What's stopping ME? Let's see.. I'm not a white upper class male from a white upper class family, for starters. As far as the rest of Denver goes, there are a lot of properly indoctrinated fellows who believe in the myth of the American free market (I'm guessing you believe in this myth). Some of those believers might not welcome a community-run gym and may be in positions that enable them to prevent one from opening. Additionally, those who have an interest in a community-run gym probably do not have a surplus amount of cash - otherwise they would be rejoicing for the blessing in Denver that is Movement. Insurance is expensive, too. In short, money and politics are stopping me. But mostly money. Do you have any contributions to make? Stay out of Denver. Better yet, move to Texas with all the other "slims."winners make things happen. losers make excuses. i have a pretty good idea which camp you are in.... |
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Andy B wrote:I just want a low key place that I can go to train hard when the weather sucks and not spend $19 a pop.I just called CATS in Boulder. They're $5/day or $35/month. I asked if there was a start up fee. She said, "No, we're really low key here." |
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Eric G. wrote: Ah yes, the powerful indoor climbing lobby, aka BIG GYM, will stop at nothing to crush your subversive coop dreams.Yes, Dwight Eisenhower saw this coming when he spoke of his fears over the coming Military Industrial Indoor Climbing Complex. No....wait... |
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TBrumme wrote:How is summitclimbing.org any different? They've got a $50 startup fee and $60/month membership.It's not. No one said startup fees are specific to Movement. At the minimum they should offer an alternative. Some offer unlimited climbing passes for non-members. Something like $60 a month and startup for a member, or $70 a month with no startup for just a 30 day pass. |
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20 kN wrote: Something like $60 a month and startup for a member, or $70 a month with no startup for just a 30 day pass.Well, Movement offers just that, so does ET, BRC, The Spot (the only gyms I've been within the last year, so I'm not sure what you are complaining about. |
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20 kN wrote: Something like $60 a month and startup for a member, or $70 a month with no startup for just a 30 day pass.That's exactly what Movement does. $75 startup and $68/month, or $80/month with no startup. |
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Who Dat wrote: Fantastical? It's already been done: summitclimbing.org/According to Summit's website, non-members can't get a day pass unless accompanied by a member. "Non members can visit the gym with current members for day pass climbing" Movement, ET, RJ etc don't have that rule. +1 for them, -1 for summit My point is that this yet another example of how each gym has pros and cons and all gyms differ from each other. I'm glad they are all different. Some are small and cheap. Some are big and $$. Choice is good |
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Tony B wrote: Well well, not being white means you can't do shit in Denver? How ignorant is that? PLEASE don't tell this guy: Or he may not come to the ribbon cutting! And as for the male and middle class question, you know, I can think of a few people that have overcome that barrier too: I think your main barrier to opening such a thing in Denver could be that you are not in Denver.Wow. 2 examples. Neither of whom are from Denver. Impressive.. I'm guessing you're no logician. I doubt you possess even an iota of Cartesian common sense. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forma… en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_… Or Wikipedia just the commie rag? The wealth of ignorance on this forum is astounding. There are reasons the rest of the world thinks Americans are stupid, lazy, ethnocentric ignoramuses. Rightly so. |
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It's getting hot in here... |
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Who Dat wrote: Wow. 2 examples. Neither of whom are from Denver. Impressive.. The wealth of ignorance on this forum is astounding. There are reasons the rest of the world thinks Americans are stupid, lazy, ethnocentric ignoramuses. Rightly so.Actually, that's the Denver mayor. Have a good night! |
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Annnnyywayyy....socio-economic discussions aside I have some pertinent info to pass along. |