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Josh S · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2014 · Points: 0

Hey, just wondering if anyone out there owns the guide glove, I'm thinking of getting it, and wondering what your opinion on it is.
Thanks

Cor · · Sandbagging since 1989 · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 1,445

Last you long time.
Wear for skiing almost always.
Wear for ice on the coldest of days.
Very warm. Removable liners.

Kai Larson · · Sandy, UT · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 436

Removable liners?

Mine don't have removable liners.

Cor wrote:Last you long time. Wear for skiing almost always. Wear for ice on the coldest of days. Very warm. Removable liners.
Cor · · Sandbagging since 1989 · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 1,445

mine are old black ones.. shit, new ones don't have that?

Brad W · · San Diego · Joined Apr 2009 · Points: 75

Yes, great gloves for skiing. I'm a wuss from SoCal and they keep me warm when I go to cold scary places. Mine are ~2 years old and have removable wool liners. The leather shell works great alone on warmer days too.

Only con is that there isn't as much insulation on the front as on the back of the hands/fingers, but that's how it needs to be to keep dexterity high.

akafaultline · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 225

I've had mine for 1 year and a half. The leather, as is all BD gloves is great. But they really aren't water proof. The outer liner is filled with holes from all the seams and has no goretex in it at all. If you want truly gore tex and waterproof-get arc'teryx. On the arc'teryx alpha sv, the shell is waterproof unlike the BD guide. But the BD guide glove is warmer.

I wish arc'teryx would make a burlier version of the alpha sv with increased insulation and leather reinforcements.

Bottom line-I wouldn't buy them again. I don't generally wear them unless its about 20 degrees or colder and not while I'm real active since they don't breathe the best. Likewise, i don't find them to be warm enough for temps below zero degrees if I'm not active.

AlpineIce · · Upstate, NY · Joined Mar 2011 · Points: 255
akafaultline wrote: I wish arc'teryx would make a burlier version of the alpha sv with increased insulation and leather reinforcements.
I second that. I have the Alpha SV's & they are a great glove, hands down. I wish Arc'teryx would make a 200g (or more) ThermaTek liner for the Alphas so we had the choice to use the stock Polartec fleece liners or, when it dips below 20F, just pop in the ThermaTek liners for much needed insulation.

My current solution is using a pair of Outdoor Research Alti Glove liners for below 20F. They're close to about 200g of PrimaLoft One and pretty much get the job done. The fit isn't 100 % like the stock liners, but it works decently well.

I've emailed Arc'teryx before on ThermaTek liners, but they're so big now, they don't listen much anymore.
Mike Belu · · Chicago, IL · Joined Jun 2012 · Points: 135

I've used them for mountaineering. I think they are pretty good. The outside leather shell is not waterproof, but the insert is. So, in theory, the outer shell gets wet, but the insert keeps you're hands dry.
I'm between a L and XL, and ordered the Large. They are snug and as a result the insulation is compressed down. So I think I lost some of the warmth the insulation would provide, because it's smashed down.
They are tough, would be hard to cut with an ice ax, which I've seen happen with some of the nylon puffy style insulated gloves.

I believe mountain hardwear was also making gloves that had waterproof outer shells, called outdry. It's been a while since I looked.

If you're looking, the BD rambla glove is still pretty warm and has better articulation.

My two cents...

Dave Rone · · Custer, SD · Joined Jul 2003 · Points: 3,824

It is a warm glove, but I find it too bulky for hard ice climbing. Ok for belaying, although I prefer a mitt.

Morgan Patterson · · NH · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 8,945

How does the guide fit under the jacket? I need a super warm under the cuff glove for skiing in neg temps...

Mike Marmar · · Salt Lake City, UT · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 67
Morgan Patterson wrote:How does the guide fit under the jacket?
It doesn't. It has a huge gauntlet for over the cuff.
Morgan Patterson · · NH · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 8,945
Mike Marmar wrote: It doesn't. It has a huge gauntlet for over the cuff.
darn... thnx mike...
phil wortmann · · Colorado Springs, Co. · Joined Feb 2005 · Points: 1,186

Its a warm glove that lasts a long time. It does however take awhile to break it in.

divnamite · · New York, NY · Joined Aug 2007 · Points: 90
Morgan Patterson wrote:How does the guide fit under the jacket? I need a super warm under the cuff glove for skiing in neg temps...
Get the Kinco Insulated Gloves (knitted wrist). They are cheap and warm. You can snowseal them for better waterproof.
TWrenO · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 0

Does anyone have any experience using the Kinco gloves for ice climbing? How have they worked out for you? The price certainly looks right.

divnamite · · New York, NY · Joined Aug 2007 · Points: 90
TWrenO wrote:Does anyone have any experience using the Kinco gloves for ice climbing? How have they worked out for you? The price certainly looks right.
I used the 1917KW for ice climbing, up to WI3/4 without any problem. I also use them for belay and rappels. One thing about these gloves is that they tend to split at the seam between the thumb and index finger.
jaredj · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2013 · Points: 165
TWrenO wrote:Does anyone have any experience using the Kinco gloves for ice climbing? How have they worked out for you? The price certainly looks right.
Despite some online claims that Kincos are "dextrous as f**k", I found the cut to be boxy and weird, and didn't like the seam location on the end of the fingertip. If you've got rough hewn meatpaws from actual manual labor instead of little bitch hands from working at a computer all day, you may have better luck with dexterity. I think I'd drop biners all day long wearing these on a real climb. That said, I think they're great cheap gloves for skiing and non-dextrous outdoor activities.

I also own the BD Guide gloves and think of them as being too bulky for technical climbing as well (biner handling, clipping, and such). I'm in the PNW and climb primarily regionally and have the luxury of not having to worry about subzero temps, so take my perspective with a grain of salt. I know there's guys out there who climb hard stuff in these gloves, so I'm probably just being picky. I have a pair of Eddie Bauer Guide gloves that I got on sale that are the thickest thing that I would do technical climbing with. They're single layer (e.g. non removable liner) and I would buy again if I got them on sale price.

As others have said, the BD Guide glove is bomb as a ski glove.

If you google a trip report from the Cassin Ridge last year from the guys at OutdoorGearLab who do reviews, you'll see photos (and a funny short video) of some BD Guides where the leather shell glove got wet and basically froze into a solid block that they were unable to unfreeze. The guy with the MH gloves (with the waterproof membrane in the shell) had no such problems. An armchair analysis might suggest that there was some operator error that led to such an outcome, but it highlights the downside risk of the design.
GLD · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2012 · Points: 83

Yep my Kinco's were frozen solid this weekend. Still nice and warm though! Just had to take them off for any manipulation.

iceman777 · · Colorado Springs · Joined Oct 2007 · Points: 60

On par with the kinko gloves are the fly low , there impreganated with silicone then the whole glove is baked . I've been rocking several pairs of them for a few years now and at 25 bucks a pop idk if they look like insulated work gloves , they work for ice climbing in temps down to 20 deg and if you add a thin smart wool liner and a coupl chem heat packs down to -20 . I have the worlds coldest hands and feet so take that for what it's worth .

Never again will I spend 70- 200 dollars for gloves that don't hold up to the abuse we ask them to , and btw I have the guide glove and it works but is too expensive and too bulky for ice climbing , you'll get more mileage out of them as a ski glove .

Ti ck · · souf yeast · Joined Jun 2014 · Points: 1,760

I love the BD rambla gloves, very durable, very warm. No removable liner and probably a bit bulky for ice climbing, but they are amazing ski gloves. Now, if only I hadn't lost them, doh will be re-buying them in the near future.

Locker · · Yucca Valley, CA · Joined Oct 2002 · Points: 2,349

Hmmm...

"Guide Glove".

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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