Would you retire these tool picks?
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Hi everyone, |
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File the first 2 teeth to a sharp and smooth out the beak then file at the top point and ....buy a file. Noobs... |
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eyesonice2014 wrote:File the first 2 teeth to a sharp and smooth out the beak then file at the top point and ....buy a file. Noobs...Well, um, thanks for the advice. I do have a file, and I have been filing the picks (mind you, I might have been doing it wrong the whole time). Just wondering if people think they are too far gone now (especially number 1). Yes, I might be a relatively noob, but we all have to start somwhere, don't we? Just trying to get some opinions/ideas... |
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OK filing first 2 teeth out and smoothing out the beak not only make them last longer but help a lot with removing your tool placements thus preventing a stuck tool. Which is a huge PIA as you may have already found out. Get one of them big ass files too. I can easily tell by just looking at them that the front 2 teeth never been touched. So you got another season in them. |
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Do you have a brand new pick to compare them against? I retire mine at 3/8" to 1/2" shorter than new. I also keep mine a whole (WHOLE) lot sharper than you've got pictured. Looks like spoons to me. |
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You have a lot of life left in those picks. I would find someone in your area that has been climbing awhile and ask them to show you how to file for best effect. A local shop would be a good place to start. You can restructure picks for a long time depending how much work you want to put into them and how long you want to keep using the same picks. |
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eyesonice2014 : |
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What tools are those? They look to me like Petzl Nomics. What picks are those? They look like the mixed pick but the top of the picks have no teeth... Hmmm.. |
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Quarks with Cascades. Sharpen them, if you need room remove a tooth. I think Petzl said they were good until you hit the second tooth. |
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Bill Kirby wrote: BTW.. listen to NicelegsIt's like that motherfucker actually knows a fucking thing about fucking stuff. He's not very diplomatic though. |
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nicelegs wrote: It's like that motherfucker actually knows a fucking thing about fucking stuff. He's not very diplomatic though.Hey man, when you're right you're right.. even if you are a dick about it. Hell, I'ld rather get the right advice from you than from nice dumb ass. |
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Ray Pinpillage wrote:Quarks with Cascades. Sharpen them, if you need room remove a tooth. I think Petzl said they were good until you hit the second tooth.I thought Petzl shows to replace the picks when they look like the OPs. I saw that in the Petzl literature "How to maintain your equipment". It's been awhile since I checked out the Petzl stuff. It looks to me like there's not enough metal left to file the edge of the pick to be the same length as the first tooth. I guess everyone has their own idea of what works for them. |
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Yeah... just go over to ontarioclimbing.com and ask the same question. They're friendlier. Probably can even find someone willing to show you how they tune their picks for that Ontario ice. You definitely have a good bit of life left in those picks though. |
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These are old, but you should get the point. Up to 3 seasons with "regular" use should be doable, depending on what you are climbing exactly. |
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Jfaub wrote:eyesonice2014 : Just to make sure, when you say filing the first 2 teeth out you mean taking them out completely? I've definitely noticed when I get bomber sticks getting the tool out can be a little... problematic.Yes, the idea is to remake the pick. When it was new you probably had about a 1/4in of no teeth (maybe a bit less) before the teeth began, especially true on Grivel picks which clean very well, IMO. Next, bevel the next set of teeth to also improve cleaning. There are much more advanced and specialized ways to file picks (as someone noted, it's called detuning). YouTube them. But to get another season out of your picks, you definitely need to remove those first 2 teeth and reform the front as well. At the very least you can use these for early season and mixed, and then buy a new set for mid season ice. I'm a poor cheap bastard, so I try to squeeze every day I can from my picks and front points. Others may have more money to drop and be able to replace them more often. And, the videos above my post were actually the videos I was recommending you YouTube. Problem solved! |
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I would buy a set of new picks. Use them as reference to learn how to file your old picks, then stash the new ones for next season. Then, never let your picks show up on MP like that again. |
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Bill Kirby wrote: What tools are those? They look to me like Petzl Nomics. What picks are those? They look like the mixed pick but the top of the picks have no teeth... Hmmm.. I would 100% retire them and buy brand new ones. I would detune the new Petzl picks. Use the new picks for leading ice or mixed. You can use the old ones when you're drytooling at your limit on a TR. PM me if you wanna learn how i used to detune my Petzl picks. BTW.. listen to NicelegsDon't think those are nomics... Definitaly not nomic picks. Lacking the head weight holes. Kind of an odd looking shape. Might be the camera angle. |
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Just Solo wrote:I would buy a set of new picks. Use them as reference to learn how to file your old picks, then stash the new ones for next season. Then, never let your picks show up on MP like that again.This. A couple of things of note - you should have filed off the first tooth a while ago, at this point I'd file off both. I've seen someone pop out of an ice hook because they were rocking on the front teeth. You'll get better sticks, period. When reshaping your picks make sure to hook the front nose (the Petzl picks have a good hook to them out of the box, so if you do what Just Solo suggests with buying a new set of picks you'll have a good reference). This will help with shallow sticks and hooks. You can likely get another season, or half a season from those picks, but be careful to not let them get too short. This can effect your swings and your sticks too. Certain ice conditions/styles are more lenient to short picks than others. |
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Sorry if this was asked above...I didn't read it all...but are the ice tools made of wood? If they are, they would be melt |
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Just Solo wrote: Don't think those are nomics... Definitaly not nomic picks. Lacking the head weight holes. Kind of an odd looking shape. Might be the camera angle.Quarks with cascade picks. |
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Maurice Chaunders wrote:Sorry if this was asked above...I didn't read it all...but are the ice tools made of wood? If they are, they would be meltHuh?? |