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Cochise Stronghold & Wilderness Designation

Shannon KM · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 0

We sent out an email containing the letter and maps on November 14th. Look in your spam folder if you cannot find it. Apologies if your email is not on our list, I will be sure to check that it is added.

Geir www.ToofastTopos.com · · Tucson/DMR · Joined Jun 2006 · Points: 2,751

For Gmail users, check the "Social" tab - this is where my Gmail placed it by default. I didn't see the email for a couple of days because I don't often look there for incoming messages.

It's worth noting that any time I have had a question or comment, I could reach board members quickly and easily by email or phone.

Angel Mangual · · Sierra Vista, AZ · Joined Jan 2009 · Points: 1,501

On the Whetstone Map, the Dry is affected by the Wilderness. Have we addressed this location too or Did we only concentrated on Cochise?

Alex McIntyre · · Tucson, AZ · Joined Jan 2011 · Points: 546

I stand corrected in regards to the email. It somehow found its way into my spam folder. I still would like to see marks of where major crags are on the PWA maps.

Angel, is that the case? I had assumed the cherry stem coming off the right branch of 4014 encompassed the Dry. I could be totally wrong though.

Hendrixson · · Littleton, CO · Joined Sep 2007 · Points: 3,290

My read of the provided map suggests that the Dry is outside the proposed Wilderness area. I could be mistaken.

Shannon KM · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 0

SACC, AF, and TWS went on a site visit to the Dry to ground truth and GPS the area. It is outside the proposed wilderness. Alex McIntyre is correct when he says "I had assumed the cherry stem coming off the right branch of 4014 encompassed the Dry." That was an intentional cherry stem following the trail and base of the crag.

Angel Mangual · · Sierra Vista, AZ · Joined Jan 2009 · Points: 1,501

Thank you! I stand corrected.

Shannon KM · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 0

No worries. I appreciate input and comments and hope to answer any questions. On that note, I don't have a map that highlights individual crags. I'll see to creating one. Thanks for the suggestion, Alex, I think that it would be helpful for everyone.

bikesrockswaves · · Tucson, Arizona · Joined Jan 2013 · Points: 10

Over Thanksgiving weekend I was briefed by our Tucson area Access Fund policy hardman, Eric Murdock, on the status & approach being pursued with respect to the Cochise wilderness, and I was very impressed with the comprehensive amount of thought, relationship development, and implementation put into this matter on our behalf by him and AF -- as well as their actions on broader fronts. I continue to be impressed by what a fine organization The Access Fund is and how much they've done on our behalf -- keeping in context both the 'big picture' and the details we seek in every unique situation. Kudos to these guys and thanks for looking out for us.

(The short version of the status was that a very strategic map was crafted, cutting away the primary climbing areas from proposed wilderness designations, and a bit more, while securing the first-time support from the Wilderness Society, which then becomes an ally in the matter, rather than an opponent, and a potential ally in some of the (many expected) future policy implmentations likely to emerge from new climbing-in-wilderness compatibility policies coming down from USFS next year. Which map may not be approved anyways, but if so, it's something we can live with and we made important friends in the process, as well establishing credibility with local USFS leadership.)

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Arizona & New Mexico
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