Found: Poop at the base of Epinephrine.

You may think that by walking past the start of the climb 50' you were actually being discrete, but believe it or not, there are other climbs that start over there. I know the wag bag dispenser was empty (it has since been refilled) but if you had the forethought to bring toilet paper and to use it, surely it wouldn't be too hard to make even a minimal effort to bury your waste.

The base of routes in Red Rocks is not your toilet. Lots of people frequent these places and some people, such as myself, go there all the time. What is the matter with you? Are you a sociopath? I don't think so! I think deep down you're a good person who was only acting like a sociopath after being overcome by intimidation upon looking up at the chimneys. The intimidation is OK. So is the need to go to the bathroom. Just own up to it and do something about it afterwards. It does not "wash away" or "dry up and blow away" or otherwise decompose for a very long time here in the desert. Instead, I found it, my partner found it, and my dog found it. I won't comment on which of our mouths now smells like it but it is disgusting and you are to blame. The good news is you can make it right by doing better next time! So please, if you're reading this - EVEN IF THIS WASN'T YOUR POOP - this is plea asking YOU to DO THE RIGHT THING next time.

PS: The plateau at the base of Crimson Chrysalis is not a toilet either. Nor is the start of Cloud Tower which is just past Crimson Chrysalis. Nor is anywhere near the creek or hillside above Dark Shadows. Nor is the slope leading up to Solar Slab. Nor the base of the Tunnel Vision. Come on people!

You found my poop? I've been looking for that everywhere.

A few years ago my dog went right for a fresh pile near a bouldering area. Good times.

I've seen it written that people SHOULD NOT bury their poop (this is in Indian Creek). That somehow the desert conditions will rapidly dry out and break down the stuff. Talk amongst yourselves.

Ray

I can offer you a 6 pack of your choice of beverage for its safe return. It has sentimental value.

Ray, indeed. The wag bag (or otherwise packing it out) is the ideal solution. There are many other less-ideal solutions. But by far the most inconsiderate is just leaving it there on the ground with a bunch of toilet paper just sitting there on top of it. I just can't imagine doing this in an area like Red Rocks and yet it happens all the time here. It is, in my opinion, the absolute worst thing about being a local.

From: Good Poop Practices

"Don’t Smear!
A decade or so ago, the smear method of backcountry pooping was recommended when digging a cathole wasn’t plausible. It was especially recommended in alpine and desert environments, where the harsh, dry, windy weather was thought to speed decomposition. But since the early 2000s, the smear has largely been abandoned by organizations such as Leave No Trace as a preferred method of meadow-muffin disposal. It wasn’t practical to expect people to follow the proper smearing protocol, which required spreading feces into a thin veneer on a rock or the ground. (Think icing on a cake, according to Ben Lawhon, LNT’s education director.) Scientific studies have now shown that it takes about four months for this “icing” to break down."

I have no idea why they call it number 2 because its easily my favorite

When my brother and I were little, our beagle Oggie was getting into a lot of trouble for pooping in the house. So we came up with a solution. Later that day my mother found us putting Scotch tape over Oggie's butthole.

Hey, it could work.

Gunks Jesse wrote:I've found the same thing out at lost city in the Gunks!

Daniel Winder wrote:I can offer you a 6 pack of your choice of beverage for its safe return. It has sentimental value.

Josh Janes wrote:You may think that by walking past the start of the climb 50' you were actually being discrete, but believe it or not, there are other climbs that start over there. I know the wag bag dispenser was empty (it has since been refilled) but if you had the forethought to bring toilet paper and to use it, surely it wouldn't be too hard to make even a minimal effort to bury your waste. The base of routes in Red Rocks is not your toilet. Lots of people frequent these places and some people, such as myself, go there all the time. What is the matter with you? Are you a sociopath? I don't think so! I think deep down you're a good person who was only acting like a sociopath after being overcome by intimidation upon looking up at the chimneys. The intimidation is OK. So is the need to go to the bathroom. Just own up to it and do something about it afterwards. It does not "wash away" or "dry up and blow away" or otherwise decompose for a very long time here in the desert. Instead, I found it, my partner found it, and my dog found it. I won't comment on which of our mouths now smells like it but it is disgusting and you are to blame. The good news is you can make it right by doing better next time! So please, if you're reading this - EVEN IF THIS WASN'T YOUR POOP - this is plea asking YOU to DO THE RIGHT THING next time. PS: The plateau at the base of Crimson Chrysalis is not a toilet either. Nor is the start of Cloud Tower which is just past Crimson Chrysalis. Nor is anywhere near the creek or hillside above Dark Shadows. Nor is the slope leading up to Solar Slab. Nor the base of the Tunnel Vision. Come on people!

At least one, gallon size Ziploc bag should be in everyone's pack along with wag bags. Throw those wag bags in the ziploc. No mess or stench. I always fill mine up with crag trash at the very least. Too many people out there these days. Too fragile of an environment.

Lessen the chance of messen yo pants - with the Loop n Poop. No more straining your back before a climb, let the unrelenting chimneys do that.

youtube.com/watch?feature=p…

It's got accessory loops you can attach things to such as TP, reading material/topos, and your own smug sense of self entitlement.

In all seriousness, I blame the Euros.

You can always tell when it's a Euro job....right where you coil the rope out

Also Found: Turds at the base of Sour Mash. Are these yours too?

People hauling dogs back deep into the canyons or cragging for that matter complaining about human shit...I always find the irony amazing.

Just carry a WAG Bag it weighs nothing. I use it in remote Idaho as well as the Tetons, Wind Rivers ect. If this practice was used years ago it wouldn't be a problem now. pack it in pack it out... easy enough. Still confused... try toilet in a bag. google it.

Stich wrote:When my brother and I were little, our beagle Oggie was getting into a lot of trouble for pooping in the house. So we came up with a solution. Later that day my mother found us putting Scotch tape over Oggie's butthole. Hey, it could work.

Dow beat me to it.

You know why they call 'em trade routes? Cause they're great but they smell like human faeces. Do you get the joke? Do you smell what I am stepping in?