R1 sizing vs other Patagonia products

For some time now I've been thinking about getting one for winter sport climbing (20-40 F), R1 as base layer plus down jacket when belaying. As I'm from europe and can't try for a proper sizing I've looked up some comments on various US stores. Most of the comments suggest M/L, what do you think?
I'm 6', 40-41" chest, 32" waist and with very long arms so Patagonia is my prefered manufacturer :). For comparison I've Northwall softshell (snug under arms) and Super Alpine Jacket (has some room for layering) both in Medium and the sleeves are perfect.

I wear an R1 in a LARGE - Not super snug but that's how Iike it. Typically a Large in all Patat tops.

6', 181lbs. 43in Chest, 34-35in sleeve (longish arms)

I can't totally give you all the advice, but I think Large would be the way to go. I am 6', 38"chest, 32" waist, and a +4" wingspan and the large fits me well. It'd be a little tighter in the chest for you which would be fine given your application as a base layer. I do believe the md would be too small.
Enjoy and happy climbing!

Get a Large. The R1 products are slim fit as opposed to regular fit, which makes a difference.

Mike McL wrote:Get a Large. The R1 products are slim fit as opposed to regular fit, which makes a difference.

That is one of the main reasons I'm opting for it.

Forgot to post my weight it's about 170 lbs, wingspan over 6.5'.

Thanks to all, I guess I'm gonna get L.

Finally got my R1 Large as adviced. I could fit my down jacket under it, so not very happy about that :( The chest is maybe 2" to big and waist waaay too big.
Note to myself if you want snug fit in patagonia always go with Medium.

Tom M wrote:Finally got my R1 Large as adviced. I could fit my down jacket under it, so not very happy about that :( The chest is maybe 2" to big and waist waaay too big. Note to myself if you want snug fit in patagonia always go with Medium.

Agreed. I got an R1 in a large. It its everywhere but ended up being too long (thinking about hemming it). I also own the piton hoody in a large, and it has a much tighter fit and feels more like a medium. Morale is always try the jackets on before you buy them.

Tom M wrote:Finally got my R1 Large as adviced. I could fit my down jacket under it, so not very happy about that :( The chest is maybe 2" to big and waist waaay too big. Note to myself if you want snug fit in patagonia always go with Medium.

Agreed. I got an R1 in a large. It fits everywhere but ended up being too long (thinking about hemming it). I also own the piton hoody in a large, and it has a much tighter fit and feels more like a medium. Morale is always try the jackets on before you buy them.

Tom M wrote:Finally got my R1 Large as adviced. I could fit my down jacket under it, so not very happy about that :( The chest is maybe 2" to big and waist waaay too big. Note to myself if you want snug fit in patagonia always go with Medium.

I'm close to your size and the large I have has a compression fit. Maybe they changed the pattern?

Brady Deal wrote:Morale is always try the jackets on before you buy them.

If I only could :( Not available locally (UE/Poland)

Ray Pinpillage wrote:Maybe they changed the pattern?

Well I'll try to sell it and get Medium. You win some, you lose some :|

I'm not sure any company makes 2 garments in a row that are the same size - one XL fits great, the next time I need a 2XL and it's tight. For things that cost as much as they do - I think we should be able to at least have consistent sizing within the size model item. And no 2 companies sizing is even close to the same. This companies are baggy for the size - the next one has the armpits too tight - then the forearms are too small etc. In some ways it's good if you live someplace you can try on all the different items to find the best fit - but God help the rest of us.

Shoes are the same. It's a real crap shoot mail ordering stuff - I really feel for someone like the OP overseas trying to buy the stuff by American companies.

Chris Rice wrote:Shoes are the same. It's a real crap shoot mail ordering stuff - I really feel for someone like the OP overseas trying to buy the stuff by American companies.

Yup shoes are just a shot in the dark, but I usually buy those them locally, order 2 pairs 0.5 size apart and return one that doesn't fit plus they are usually cheaper here as are ropes, everything else is at least +30%.
I'll never understand this philosophy 1 USD ≠ 1 EUR :(. If I can get my gear cheaper I will, sorry I'm not a patriot especially when it's all made in China anyway and seller gets a bigger cut than manufacturer.

Recently I've found this shoe sizing table on Rockrun and it's pretty accurate most of the time.

Chris Rice wrote:I'm not sure any company makes 2 garments in a row that are the same size - one XL fits great, the next time I need a 2XL and it's tight. For things that cost as much as they do - I think we should be able to at least have consistent sizing within the size model item. And no 2 companies sizing is even close to the same. This companies are baggy for the size - the next one has the armpits too tight - then the forearms are too small etc..

I like Patagonias XXL sizing. I'm 6'3" 255, 37" arms, 56"chest 32" inseam and 36" waist. The Northwall pants fit great. The Cap 1 is my favorite base layer! The shirts are plenty long enough. It seems all XXL is sized for short fat people not tall fat people.

I find that MHW, TNF, Rab Marmot XXL work well. Mammut and Arcteryx have different XXL sizing depending on the model. Buying gear is easy at my size.. XXL or nothing.