Does resoling your shoe change its characteristics?

Resolers please chime in.

I think resoling made my VCS lose some of its stiffness. I can't really say for sure because they were getting old anyway.

I went to a good resoler so it's not the resoler. I'm just wondering if this is normal.

I'm not a resoler, but have had a few shoes resoled. In my experience, resoling will change the shoe somewhat.

Resolers correct me here if I'm wrong, but if they replaced the toe cap or rand, the general "feel" or stiffness would certainly be affected.

Locker would know, or you could call rock n resole if you had their number.

Good luck finding their phone number...

What rubbah did u use?

;)

Holy cow that was a lot of work finding their number. I managed to find a reference on an obscure website. Something called Google. I think its new.

(303) 440-0414

I've had my past 3 pairs of VCSs resoled numerous times. I've noticed little difference, if at all.

On a flat shoe like the Anazazi it isn't going to change it. But a radically down turned shoe like a solution can really change if the resolver doesn't have downturn lasts to work with.

Earth to Locker.

FWIW, my relatively small sample size which includes maybe 30 resoles on Miuras and a few on Grandstones would lead me to say no. I used Yosemite Bum for a long time and now give my business to Locker (who does AWESOME work). Other than when I put thinner Evolv rubber on my Grandstones, the characteristics and performance of the shoes stayed relatively consistent after resoling. YMMV, especially with really downturned shoes.

bearbreeder wrote:What rubbah did u use? ;)

C4, of course. :)

O.L.D.S.A.G. wrote: C4, of course. :)

was it the anasazis that originally had the onyx rubber?

ive had resoled shoes that originally had "harder" rubber (vibram/onyx) with "softer" ones (c4) ...

every time theyve ended up much softer ...

when i resolve with vibram they dont have that issue

everyone i know who has resoled sportivas (miuras, katanas, nagos, etc ...) have had the same issue

i no longer get resoles with c4 personally

;)

bearbreeder wrote: was it the anasazis that originally had the onyx rubber?

It used to be Onyxx (I have one pair for 2012 and 2011). This year (maybe last year as well) has C4. What do you resole with now? I find Evolv Trax rubber very stiff.

bearbreeder wrote: was it the anasazis that originally had the onyx rubber? ive had resoled shoes that originally had "harder" rubber (vibram/onyx) with "softer" ones (c4) ... every time theyve ended up much softer ... when i resolve with vibram they dont have that issue everyone i know who has resoled sportivas (miuras, katanas, nagos, etc ...) have had the same issue i no longer get resoles with c4 personally ;)

Huh. very interesting. Yes, they originally had the onyxx rubber.

The Anasazi was C4 until Onyxx came out. It's been Onyxx since, and that's been what I've resoled it with too.

I have C4 on my Stonelands, and I think I like the feel of Onyxx better for the types of rock I'm usually on.

O.L.D.S.A.G. wrote: Huh. very interesting. Yes, they originally had the onyxx rubber.

For shoes that originally had stiffer rubber, i usually tell folks to resole with vibram edge/onyx if they want to keep the stiffness

The softness of c4 is great for smearing and steep climbing, but for hard edging and standing on tiny crystals edge/onyx work better IMO

Note that some shoes like the anasazi blancos are the newtons use c4 and are good edgers, but they were designed to use c4 from the start

IME for shoes that were designed to use a stiffer rubber, resole em with a stiffer rubber if you want to keep roughly the same feel

I must have talked to at least a dozen folks who resoles their miura/katanas with c4 and they found out that the shoe became "soft" on em after, all from different resolers

;)

In my case, every time I resoled my shoes I opted to go with c4/stealth, so that jives with what your saying... However some of the shoes I resoled were 5.10s so the original rubber was c4 to begin with. So just curious why using c4 in a resole would noticeably change characteristics when the original rubber was also c4?

"Note that some shoes like the anasazi blancos are the newtons use c4 and are good edgers, but they were designed to use c4 from the start "

I'm guessing the answer is basically, "no shoe will ever be like is was out of the box"

Jon Zucco wrote: So just curious why using c4 in a resole would noticeably change characteristics when the original rubber was also c4? "Note that some shoes like the anasazi blancos are the newtons use c4 and are good edgers, but they were designed to use c4 from the start " I'm guessing the answer is basically, "no shoe will ever be like is was out of the box"

In general if the shoe was originally c4, then using c4 hould be fine

However as leather shoes get worn, they tend to get softer and stretch ... This is less an issue with synthetics

Also as all the sweat, grime and dirt build up the shoe can feel "looser" as well (the buildup causes the feet to slip a bit inside), washing shoes fairly regularly and using anti bacterial spray such as lysol can prevent this

The main problem i see especially with sportivas is folks resoling the vibram edge shoes with c4 ... This turns in into a decently softer smeary shoe which is fine if thats is what yr after

Yr correct that a shoe is never the same as when new, but a good resoler will know about these issues and can keep the shoe feeling somewhat similar to the shoe before the resole (but after break in and some use)

;)