Seeking Constructive Feedback on Bag Design
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Hey fellas! |
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Sweet looking bag! I'd order one in a heartbeat. |
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I like the design. What's the diameter of the opening (I have big hands)? Can you do one in all black? I'd order one as well. |
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I appreciate the kind words, fellas! |
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What would everyone think of a vertically oriented zipper? Going up the side of the bag. |
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The problem with both bottom and side-mounted zippers is that zipper failure=content spillage. I'd be more inclined to buy a chalkbag that had the zipper up high, near the rim, and a piece of fabric over the zipper (that stiff VX stuff works great for this purpose). |
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I have one of your previous models and its been my chalk bag of choice for a while - Good workmanship! I have to agree with Tico that I would prefer a zipper up high near the rim and preferably on the backside (unexposed). Large enough to fit my keys etc... and maybe a horizontal zipper would be less likely to open. |
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Thanks for the responses, Tico and SDM. I'm going to work out some prototypes with your suggestions. I like the suggestion of a zipper flap. |
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No, I just complain a lot. Make one in all black and I'll likely buy it. |
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My experience with other chalk bags with pockets has been that when the pocket is overstuffed, it makes it hard to use the chalk bag, because the contents of the pocket take up the interior space of the bag, interfering with dipping your hands. |
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I like chalk bag pockets. I carry a very small knife and two prussik loops in mine. There's room for a Petzl e-Lite if I want to carry one. But that seems to me to be about all you should be trying to carry in a chalk bag. In particular, stuffing a windbreaker into a chalkbag pocket, mentioned above, strikes me as absurd. Get a windbreaker or rain jacket that stuffs into its own pocket and clip the thing to your harness. |
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The problem with clipping a windbreaker to your harness is abrasion. My windbreaker is very light, but the fabric isn't that durable. (Mountain Hardwear Ghost Whisper) Clipped to my harness, it would get shredded. I keep a cordura camera case clipped to my harness. It gets a lot of wear and tear. It's heavy cordura, but is still showing wear. My windbreaker is much lighter fabric. A couple of chimneys and it would be thrashed, I'm afraid. The other issue to clipping a windbreaker to your harness is it's one more thing clipped to your harness. Keeping it in the chalk bag simplifies and streamlines things. |
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I think the chalk bag market is pretty saturated. There are only like 300 different models out there, most of which are fairly reasonably priced. Chalk bag design doesent seem like it offers much room for future innovation considering its simple design and insubstantial nature. That said, I dont like the bottom pocket. As others have said, stuff will fall out and you cant easily access it on the climb. |
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I like the zipper on the bottom idea if it could incorporate a bellows or compression design? |
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I designed this bag based on the feature requests of user Kai Larson: whom posted above. |
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I took some more of your input and i feel now that I've come to a truly innovative pocket system. Let me know what you think. |
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Yes, take my money! I like the new design. Please make me one! |
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Josh Kornish wrote: 20KN: I don't really give a shit. I'm making quality gear for myself and I'm making it here in the U.S. Obviously you have other U.S. made options. You don't have to support my project.Love the attitude. Seriously. I finally replaced a really old chalk bag with some larger metolious zippered model (vertical zipper, it seems designed for an MP3 player due to headphone hole). Zipper is important to me, because like rgold, I keep a few small things in it. Knife and rap ring come to mind as always being in there. If I take a headlamp, I put it into a baggy at the base of the bag or on my helmet if it's getting late. |
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"The stash" lol |
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MJMobes wrote:"The stash" lolI don't think so, the zipper is vertical on mine, it sounds like the stash is on the bottom...I might be wrong, but it just sounds different. Great bag though. Not sure what brand I had before, but it worked fine for a really long time and had a nice zippered pocket. My little brother took it home with him, so the Metolious was next up. Nope, the Techno ID...which is ironic as it seems to be made for gym climbers and I never climb indoors. Great bag though, seems well built, pocket is nice sized, and the Halphalon is some durable stuff. Should last a long time. |
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Here is a little prototype taking into feedback received here. |