I agree that MP moderators should take a strong interest in addressing situations witn access to climbing on private (or public) land where it might not be currently legal.
For other stuff, hopefully the new MP feature of "Improve this page" will help. But that depends on knowledgable people taking the time to suggest specific corrections, climb by climb.
Anyway bad beta and misleading route descriptions on MP are not just a problem for Pennsylvania -- also for the Gunks I think.
joeforte wrote:The fact that anyone can post info also means that I can call any cliff and any climb whatever I want, which ruins the credibility of this site.
For me it just shows that MountainProject shares the credibility problem of 99% of the Web.
For me the most valuable part of a route page on MP is the Commenta (and often the photos). Normally I get a much better basic route description from a paper guidebook (and MP is often much less helpful than a guidebook for how to
find a specific climb). Of course the Comments aften disagree with each other -- so then I have to figure out who to believe (just like on most of the rest of the Web). But at least I am made aware that there is a question, and I get to see a range of opinions.
Local guidebooks are good (even if written by someone who moved away to Oregon). But a great thing about MountainProject is that you can raise questions about the guidebook info, and just make corrections -- by using the Comments feature of MP.
Like the most recent paper guidebook I know that covers eastern PA is really valuable for many things ... but the natural world and human world keep changing, so some parts of it once were true, but now are misleading. And some points were just confusing or mistaken from the start -- which just shows that guidebook authors are human (especially when 5.12 - 5.13 climbers try to guess the correct rating for a route in the 5.5 - 5.8 range).
joeforte wrote:The fact that anyone can post info also means that I can call any cliff and any climb whatever I want ...
Funny it happens that I'm now on a trip in a region where
many cliffs and climbs are called by multiple names -- not just on websites but even in different paper guidebooks. So I made up my own web page which attempts to match up the different names for my favorites.
Ken