Need a warmer boot for ice...
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I've been using the Sportiva Nepal Evo's for a few years now and absolutely love them, but there are instances (when the temps get close to 0 fahrenheit) where my feet simply can't stay warm. |
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get batura 2s |
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For what it's worth, I also have the Nepal EVO and I love them for ice/mountaineering in Canada and northeast ice (I've used them down to like -30C in the dacks) |
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Yeah I've spent plenty of time in Canada with them as well. It's a circulation issue. |
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Do you use custom insoles? I find regular Superfeet to be much colder than stock footbeds. I have never used the winter Red Hot Superfeet, but they might be worth a shot. Or go back to stock footbeds. Adding the extra tongue also adds a bit of warmth. |
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if you're going to spend all the money to have a warmer boot than the Nepal, go with the Spantik. Yeah it's way warmer and bulkier, but I have climbed the hardest stuff i've ever climbed in that boot (a dozen pitches of WI6 with a pack on) and it performs. |
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I never thought the Nepals were all that warm. I sold them for a pair of P-Guides and am happy. I'd look at a pair of Phantom 6K's also. |
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Ray Pinpillage wrote:I'd look at a pair of Phantom 6K's also.I get cold feet. My solution (expensive) was a pair of Phantom 6000s sized larger than normal, then I replaced the surprisingly thin stock liners with Intuition Denali liners + Superfeet. Paired with supergaiters they're warm enough for the real Denali. |
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Even through the 'Polar Vortex' last winter, my feet stayed happy in Phantom 6000's. I have a brand new pair of Phantom Guides (single boot) for sale. Yours at a great deal if your interested. |
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Do you use reflective insoles? I used to lose a lot of heat from the bottom of my boot and these helped a lot. |
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beccs wrote:Do you use reflective insoles? I used to lose a lot of heat from the bottom of my boot and these helped a lot. Gaiters are good, keeps your calves warmer. Same idea is to make sure you're wearing knee high socks. Maybe the combo of high socks and gaiters will do the trick?Yep the red superfeet. On a really cold day you can pop a hand warmer behind the tongue of the shoe as well. |
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Also recently switched from Sportiva (nepal extremes evo then spantik) to the Phantom 6k's. These are a really great boot and have made my feet so much happier. Completely different boot from the Spantik (i.e. much more flexible, much less ankle support). I used to wear Trango's for mixed but now I'll just do it all in the Phantom's. Dont miss having to warm my feet back up after every long belay in cold weather. |
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A very complex topic, really. |
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Spantiks. Climb technical stuff surprisingly well. I've climbed in mine up to techy M8s (not too ideal on overhanging terrain where you have to lift your feet over you head over and over again). |
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Have you tried battery powered boot warmers? I'd recommend getting a pair first for your Nepals before spending the cash on a whole new set of boots |
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Freaking awesome feedback people. Thanks so much for the recommendations. |
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spantiks weigh a billion pounds. As someone with also bad circiulation (and I do own spantiks) Id highly recommend a phantom guide or batura 2.0 After switching off the spantik its a world of difference in weight in the batura 2.0. and much better for technical ice climbing. Not that the spantik doesnt perform well..but they are a clunker. |
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I was also going to suggest the Baruntses since you already like the Nepals. I have the Baruntses and I'm a little worried they're going to be too warm for me. I'm pretty hot natured and my ice climbing will predominantly be in the southeast. Will be using them the first time this season. They're super comfortable after fitting the liners, and they aren't nearly as heavy feeling as expected. |